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Name this palm game

Ken Johnson

By Ken Johnson
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richnorm Grand Master

richnorm

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Rich, is it Arenga australasica? Whatever it is, it is nice!

Jody

Not that one Jody. The second photo is not my plant btw but they grow very well here.

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Ken Johnson Grand Master

Ken Johnson

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Rich, is it Arenga australasica? Whatever it is, it is nice!

Jody

Not that one Jody. The second photo is not my plant btw but they grow very well here.

tremula? there I took a guess

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sarasota alex Veteran

sarasota alex

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I want to clarify that palms in that genus have trunks but keep persistent leaf bases for a very long time. It very characteristic of these palms. Not sure if the caretakers of this particular palm cleaned it manually or it is natural for this species, which is rare in cultivation and for a period of time was taxonomically lumped together with another more common species.

Ken Johnson Grand Master

Ken Johnson

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I want to clarify that palms in that genus have trunks but keep persistent leaf bases for a very long time. It very characteristic of these palms. Not sure if the caretakers of this particular palm cleaned it manually or it is natural for this species, which is rare in cultivation and for a period of time was taxonomically lumped together with another more common species.

So that one is colpothrinax?

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richnorm Grand Master

richnorm

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No Ken, not tremula. A massive clue: it's one of the few palms that grow in Tibet!

Mandrew968 Grand Master

Mandrew968

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Alex, Leucothrinax???

Ken Johnson Grand Master

Ken Johnson

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Alex, Leucothrinax???

But he said rare in cultivation.

shure looks like that complex though

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virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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I want to clarify that palms in that genus have trunks but keep persistent leaf bases for a very long time. It very characteristic of these palms. Not sure if the caretakers of this particular palm cleaned it manually or it is natural for this species, which is rare in cultivation and for a period of time was taxonomically lumped together with another more common species.

Hah... and here I was thinking you were talking about a genus of trunkless palms with one representative species that grows an above-ground trunk! Thanks for the clarification.

BTW, we refer to "clear trunk" in the nursery/landscaping industry here in Florida as the above-ground portion of the trunk between the ground and where the first leaves emerge from the trunk--regardless if the old leaf bases are attached or not. The term that Sabal palm brokers here in FL use for a trunk devoid (or purposely cleaned) of old leaf bases is "slick," as opposed to "booted" when the old leaf bases, or "boots," are still attached... just in case anyone was interested.

Jody

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virtualpalm

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Alex, Leucothrinax???

But he said rare in cultivation.

shure looks like that complex though

All species of Thrinax/Leucothrinax lose their leaf bases when they get older, though.

Jody

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sarasota alex

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I want to clarify that palms in that genus have trunks but keep persistent leaf bases for a very long time. It very characteristic of these palms. Not sure if the caretakers of this particular palm cleaned it manually or it is natural for this species, which is rare in cultivation and for a period of time was taxonomically lumped together with another more common species.

Hah... and here I was thinking you were talking about a genus of trunkless palms with one representative species that grows an above-ground trunk! Thanks for the clarification.

BTW, we refer to "clear trunk" in the nursery/landscaping industry here in Florida as the above-ground portion of the trunk between the ground and where the first leaves emerge from the trunk--regardless if the old leaf bases are attached or not. The term that Sabal palm brokers here in FL use for a trunk devoid (or purposely cleaned) of old leaf bases is "slick," as opposed to "booted" when the old leaf bases, or "boots," are still attached... just in case anyone was interested.

Jody

Jody thanks for letting me know. I'm still learning the palm language.

sarasota alex Veteran

sarasota alex

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Complete picture. I obscured the label on the bottom.

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virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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Trachycarpus... don't know the species.

Jody

sarasota alex Veteran

sarasota alex

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Sorry Jody, not a Trachycarpus

LJG Grand Master

LJG

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Complete picture. I obscured the label on the bottom.

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My guess was not correct?

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

sarasota alex Veteran

sarasota alex

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Complete picture. I obscured the label on the bottom.

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My guess was not correct?

Len, sorry missed your post. No, it's not a Schippia.

Pez Enthusiast

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Is this a trick question because of the Livistonia genus being split up? Saribus?

sarasota alex Veteran

sarasota alex

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Is this a trick question because of the Livistonia genus being split up? Saribus?

No I wouldn't do it

JasonD Mentor

JasonD

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Thrithrinax acanthocoma

Jason Dewees

Inner Sunset District

San Francisco, California

Sunset zone 17

USDA zone 10a

21 inches / 530mm annual rainfall, mostly October to April

Humidity averages 60 to 85 percent year-round.

Summer: 67F/55F | 19C/12C

Winter: 56F/44F | 13C/6C

40-year extremes: 96F/26F | 35.5C/-3.8C

sarasota alex Veteran

sarasota alex

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Thrithrinax acanthocoma

Correct!

LJG Grand Master

LJG

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B moorei?

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

sarasota alex Veteran

sarasota alex

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B moorei?

Not a Brahea

sarasota alex Veteran

sarasota alex

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Nannorrhops?

Yes it is

LJG Grand Master

LJG

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I stink. I think I will stick to growing them rather then guessing them.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Bencassa Community Regular

Bencassa

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I posted this on another thread not long ago so might be a quick game...

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richnorm Grand Master

richnorm

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satranala

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virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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Here is another one:

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Jody

virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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Not those exact ones, but same species.

Jody

sarasota alex Veteran

sarasota alex

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Here is another one:

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Jody

Looks like a Hyphaene to me. I'm thinking H. petersiana. On my H. thebaica the teeth are dark and H. coriaceas have some color there.

virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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Yes, Alex, it is Hyphaene, but I don't know which species. Here is the whole palm:

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Jody

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Lowey Experienced

Lowey

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No you are all wrong so far but here's a hint. The vertical skinny multicoloured thing in the middle of the picture is its trunk. Bruce is the one with the round leaf a drymophleus species ? Rich it looks like arenga australasica to me.

Peachy

Sorry Peachy I have been away, no it is actually a Wettinia, but which one, the other one was Licuala ramsayi :)

Bruce

Innisfail - NQ AUS - 3600mm of rain a year average or around 144inches if you prefer - Temp Range 9c to 43c

Ken Johnson Grand Master

Ken Johnson

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No you are all wrong so far but here's a hint. The vertical skinny multicoloured thing in the middle of the picture is its trunk. Bruce is the one with the round leaf a drymophleus species ? Rich it looks like arenga australasica to me.

Peachy

Sorry Peachy I have been away, no it is actually a Wettinia, but which one, the other one was Licuala ramsayi :)

Did Jody get the wettinia wrong? And that livistona looking thing is a Licuala? Dang.

And what is Peachy's thing?

And that spotted thing?

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Lowey Experienced

Lowey

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No you are all wrong so far but here's a hint. The vertical skinny multicoloured thing in the middle of the picture is its trunk. Bruce is the one with the round leaf a drymophleus species ? Rich it looks like arenga australasica to me.

Peachy

Sorry Peachy I have been away, no it is actually a Wettinia, but which one, the other one was Licuala ramsayi :)

Did Jody get the wettinia wrong? And that livistona looking thing is a Licuala? Dang.

And what is Peachy's thing?

And that spotted thing?

Ken I think Jodi said Iriartea deltoidea, it was Wettinia quinaria, Still not sure about Peachy's ??

Bruce

Innisfail - NQ AUS - 3600mm of rain a year average or around 144inches if you prefer - Temp Range 9c to 43c

Stevetoad Grand Master

Stevetoad

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Ken, you created a monster!!!

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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Oops... It is amazing how closely that Wettinia resembles Iriartea, though. Anyway, here is another that should be fairly easy:

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Jody

Jason in Orlando Experienced

Jason in Orlando

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Syagrus botryophora?

Skell's Bells

 

 

Inland Central Florida, 28N, 81W. Humid-subtropical climate with occasional frosts and freezes. Zone 9b.

virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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Yep. You got it, Jason! Here is the overall view:

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Jody

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