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Name this palm game

Ken Johnson

By Ken Johnson
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virtualpalm Veteran

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Alex, when I said you were "close," I was really talking about the texture and arrangement of the fibers on the trunk... but as it turns out, my comment also works for the island of origin as well. While C. spissa is also from Hispaniola, it has a finer-textured, less ornate, and "looser" fiber on the trunk that does not create the look of "webbing" like the other two species that you and "daandernach" mentioned have (as does the species in my photo that is yet to be identified). Perhaps this additional info will help?

Jody

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virtualpalm

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Alex, here is a photo of the trunk of C. spissa for comparison:

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Jody

Mandrew968 Grand Master

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Coccothrinax Ekmanii.

virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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Andrew, that was Alex's second guess... and it was incorrect. Sorry.

Jody

Rusty on Pine Is. Mentor

Rusty on Pine Is.

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C. scoparia?

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Mandrew968 Grand Master

Mandrew968

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Coccothrinax boschiana.

virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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Andrew, that species has been already guessed (incorrectly) as well.

Jody

Ken Johnson Grand Master

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While Alex is busy figuring out the Coccothrinax here is another one. If Andrew knows it right away I hope he holds back to see if he is right.

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Mandrew968 Grand Master

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Maybe I should read other's guesses, before I guess myself... but with 16 pages, it's daunting to look back! Coccothrinax from Hispanola... was about to say montana, but I see someone has guessed that and it's wrong--macroglossa is from Cuba, no? My guess is one of two(whichever's right): fragrans or concolor?

Mandrew968 Grand Master

Mandrew968

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I think I know, Ken :)

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sarasota alex

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Pritchardia vuylstekeana?

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sarasota alex

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Ken, Beccariophoenix sp. "windows"?

virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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Ken, judging by the spines on the outer edge of the pictured leaf, it almost has to be a Copernicia. I am going to say C. macroglossa.

Jody

Mandrew968 Grand Master

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Correct, Jody--what about my guesses?

virtualpalm Veteran

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Maybe I should read other's guesses, before I guess myself... but with 16 pages, it's daunting to look back! Coccothrinax from Hispanola... was about to say montana, but I see someone has guessed that and it's wrong--macroglossa is from Cuba, no? My guess is one of two(whichever's right): fragrans or concolor?

Nope and nope... sorry again, Andrew. BTW, I don't know C. concolor, but doesn't C. fragrans have much finer fibers more like the tall, "green-leafed" species like C. barbadensis or C. argentea?

Jody

Mandrew968 Grand Master

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Maybe I should read other's guesses, before I guess myself... but with 16 pages, it's daunting to look back! Coccothrinax from Hispanola... was about to say montana, but I see someone has guessed that and it's wrong--macroglossa is from Cuba, no? My guess is one of two(whichever's right): fragrans or concolor?

Nope and nope... sorry again, Andrew. BTW, I don't know C. concolor, but doesn't C. fragrans have much finer fibers more like the tall, "green-leafed" species like C. barbadensis or C. argentea?

Jody

Jody, I'm not familiar with either of the palms I wrote, but those are the only ones native to Hispanola, that were not mentioned. The weave looks like a hard leafed Coccothrinax like "Azul" and scoparia but neither are from there... I give up and so does palmweb.org!

Mandrew968 Grand Master

Mandrew968

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my palm is not macroglosa

Then rigida?? Sorry--I thought it was a macroglossa....

virtualpalm Veteran

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C. gracilis?

Yes, Alex... it seems your powers of deduction extend to reduction, or should I say elimination? Good job.

Here is the palm in all of its glory:

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Jody

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virtualpalm

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my palm is not macroglosa

Then rigida?? Sorry--I thought it was a macroglossa....

it is

Ah... C. rigida was almost my first guess and was going to be my next guess.

Jody

virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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Are all you Guessing Game "palm id'ers' ready for another difficult one, or would you prefer to move on to something easier? Let's see how this one goes:

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Jody

sarasota alex Veteran

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C. gracilis?

Yes, Alex... it seems your powers of deduction extend to reduction, or should I say elimination? Good job.

Here is the palm in all of its glory:

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Jody

That's exactly what it was. I don't remember ever seeing a C. gracilis nor could I find a picture of one on the web. So I thought I'd give it a shot.

Mandrew968 Grand Master

Mandrew968

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C. gracilis?

Yes, Alex... it seems your powers of deduction extend to reduction, or should I say elimination? Good job.

Here is the palm in all of its glory:

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Jody

Dang, how did I miss that?!

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sarasota alex

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C. gracilis?

Yes, Alex... it seems your powers of deduction extend to reduction, or should I say elimination? Good job.

Here is the palm in all of its glory:

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Jody

That's exactly what it was. I don't remember ever seeing a C. gracilis nor could I find a picture of one on the web. So I thought I'd give it a shot.

Actually it's a picture of trunk fibers that I couldn't find.

virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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Actually it's a picture of trunk fibers that I couldn't find.

Pretty nice, eh? And the palm itself is pretty nice, too.

Jody

sarasota alex Veteran

sarasota alex

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Are all you Guessing Game "palm id'ers' ready for another difficult one, or would you prefer to move on to something easier? Let's see how this one goes:

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Jody

Chelyocarpus chuco?

Mandrew968 Grand Master

Mandrew968

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Are all you Guessing Game "palm id'ers' ready for another difficult one, or would you prefer to move on to something easier? Let's see how this one goes:

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Jody

Chelyocarpus chuco?

Are you joking? I am betting it's a Coccothrinax and also that it was guessed, already, when guessing the last trunk photo you posted, Jody. :)

virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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Sorry, Alex, no.

Yes and no, Andrew. It is another species of Coccothrinax but it was not guessed in my last Guessing Game.

Jody

Mandrew968 Grand Master

Mandrew968

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Ok... my guess is a miraguama subspecies.

virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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This should look familiar to Ken... (and many others, no doubt).

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Jody

waykoolplantz Veteran

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This should look familiar to Ken... (and many others, no doubt).

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Jody

Petticoat or Rigida?

The Palm Mahal

Hollywood Fla

Gileno Machado Grand Master

Gileno Machado

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How about these two here folks?

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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