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Livistona saribus

BS Man about Palms

By BS Man about Palms
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BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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BIG 15 gal in pot. Fronds were lush, 3' across. Now looks anorexic spikes, leaves at 1/3 their size. No protection, hit 26F hardly protected with sheet. No visible frost.

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Adding info, since I have been a little leary of overwatering this winter due to damp-offs last winter, I have watered on the light side. I think with the large size, I think its possible it was too dry and cold. (probably large enough it was still consuming some water through this winter and I haven't given it enough.)

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Also, brought into garage tonight,  spear looks pretty good.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Keith N Tampa (ex SoJax) Veteran

Keith N Tampa (ex SoJax)

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Wow!  That report surprised me.  I have one here in NE Florida and last winter it wasn't damaged by lows in the mid 20s...with frost!   I wonder if it dehydrated

Land O Lakes FL, a suburb on the North Side of Tampa, FL

Summers are great, 90f/32c in the day & 70f/21c at night with plentiful rain & sun

Winters are subtropical with occasional frosts and freezes. Tropical cyclones happen.

We have a few Royal palms in the warm microclimates but Coconuts freeze.

I am a Kayaker, Hiker, Bicyclist, and amateur Photographer that loves the outdoors.  

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Geoff Mentor

Geoff

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Seedlings (1' tall, but 5 years old) in one area were all 'glazed' a bit at 26F- mild leaf color change.  Pretty sure they are alright otherwise

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edbrown_III Grand Master

edbrown_III

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I have 2 types of L. saribus one with wine colored trunk and one with green The green is very hardy.  I planted one out in 89'  and it was hurt too much by the 16F and 4 nights in 20's.

The wine color one is a bit more tender. It had severe scorching and some bud damage at 21F (under canopy).

Observations from here in Jax,

Best regards,

Ed

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tikitiki Mentor

tikitiki

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I have two with the darker trunk. Each palm is about 1ft tall. two nights at 32f one at 34 last two with frost. The only damage sustained was from frost and only a slight color change in the leaf.

With a tin cup for a chalice

Fill it up with good red wine,

And I'm-a chewin' on a honeysuckle vine.

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mnorell Veteran

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I grow only the green-petioled form. Damage was limited to one 6' tall non-trunking specimen (not under canopy) of three specimens I currently have in the ground, a little bit (10%) of cosmetic damage on some (not all) leaves in the 2007/2008 winter in a 15-hour, 23.3F freeze. This winter, so far, the worst has been 24.1F, in a similarly long (14.5-hour) advective event that tip-burned several leaves on a Bismarckia next to that same specimen. No damage whatsoever to the saribus. Looks like it does in summer. So I think it's safe to say the green-petioled form is completely safe from about 24F up, and exposed specimens take a little damage below that. In five winters here we haven't been lower than 22.8 and no damage to either of the canopied specimens has ever occurred (these were all planted as foot-high juveniles four years ago). I would rate the foliage-hardiness as about the same, or just a little hardier than, L. chinensis.

Michael Norell

Rancho Mirage, California | 33°44' N 116°25' W | 287 ft | z10a | avg Jan 43/70F | Jul 78/108F avg | Weather Station KCARANCH310

previously Big Pine Key, Florida | 24°40' N 81°21' W | 4.5 ft. | z12a | Calcareous substrate | avg annual min. approx 52F | avg Jan 65/75F | Jul 83/90 | extreme min approx 41F

previously Natchez, Mississippi | 31°33' N 91°24' W | 220 ft.| z9a | Downtown/river-adjacent | Loess substrate | avg annual min. 23F | Jan 43/61F | Jul 73/93F | extreme min 2.5F (1899); previously Los Angeles, California (multiple locations)

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Kailua_Krish Veteran

Kailua_Krish

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Not sure whether this is the wine or green form as these are small seedlings but after many hours of freezing out in the open with an ultimate low around 20 all the leaves are toast, though it looks like they will come back.

-Krishna

-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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tank Grand Master

tank

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Low of 14F. 14 days straight of below freezing temps. 50% overhead protection. 4 plants in 10 gal pots. All very, very dead.

Jason

Gainesville, Florida

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