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Ptychosperma ????

PalmatierMeg

By PalmatierMeg
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PalmatierMeg Grand Master

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Okay, my Samsung and I were on a roll today. I stopped at ritzy Cape Harbour to tour the great variety of palms, including fabulous Satakentias. I saw what I think is a clumping Ptychosperma with ripe black fruit. What Ptychosperma is this? Or is it something else altogether?

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Meg

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Elevation: 15 feet

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Mandrew968 Grand Master

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It's a Ptychosperma, but that's as far as I can take us...

Ken Johnson Grand Master

Ken Johnson

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There was a time where some botanic garden down here was distributing seeds that were labeled Ptycosperma sp. "black seed" and no one had another name for it. I wonder if that has changed.

Also many years ago I met people that had Ptychospermas that were clumping that had black seed and guess what they called them? :hmm:

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Dr. George Mentor

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It's a Ptychosperma, but that's as far as I can take us...

Umm...I'll defer to folks with more expertise at ID than me, but I'm thinking it looks more like a Pinanga than a Ptychosperma ...just a thought.

gmp

Jeff Searle Grand Master

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I'm leaning heavily towards P. linear. Ruling out all species w/ red fruit, single trunk and others with a "fishtail" looking leaflet, there's not really another to choose from.This based on some other extreamly rare species that might of found it's way into cultivation, which I think is very doubtful.

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Mandrew968 Grand Master

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It's a Ptychosperma, but that's as far as I can take us...

Umm...I'll defer to folks with more expertise at ID than me, but I'm thinking it looks more like a Pinanga than a Ptychosperma ...just a thought.

gmp

No way, Jose, it's a Pinanga. :)

Mandrew968 Grand Master

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I'm leaning heavily towards P. linear. Ruling out all species w/ red fruit, single trunk and others with a "fishtail" looking leaflet, there's not really another to choose from.This based on some other extreamly rare species that might of found it's way into cultivation, which I think is very doubtful.

Jeff

Are you sure linear has black seed? I picked what I thought was linear seed(red), from a friend's nursery and it made me itch all day, and then some! Doesn't linear get really tall and very very thin in the trunk? :hmm:

PalmatierMeg Grand Master

PalmatierMeg

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While I'm not sure what it is, I'm sure - regretfully - it's not a Pinanga. No Pinanga could survive my winter outdoors. I lost every single Pinanga species I planted.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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Ptychosperma elegans form me thinks.

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Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Pedro 65 Grand Master

Pedro 65

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There was a time where some botanic garden down here was distributing seeds that were labeled Ptycosperma sp. "black seed" and no one had another name for it. I wonder if that has changed.

Also many years ago I met people that had Ptychospermas that were clumping that had black seed and guess what they called them? :hmm:

Exactly right Ken, we have a large clumping Ptcho here with black seeds. We bought it a long time ago as sp New Guinea cluster, they still call it such in Flecker Bot Gardens. We all know Ptychospermas are very variable including sometimes clumping or not clumping, but i only know of one that has black seed. The one you mentioned above and the one Jeff mentioned Lineare, which also is known as solitary, so it may well be that sp Black Seed or New Guinea cluster is infact Lineare? If its rare id better collect the seed in future. Cheers Pete

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It looks like those Ptychos at the main entrance to Fairchild. Those are just labeled "Ptychosperma sp."

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Palmdude Mentor

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I just collected seeds yesterday, black, cleaned em today wearing gloves got squirted in a few spots and ouch! Those suckers burn like acid on your skin! If anyone collects and cleans these I recommend long sleeves pants gloves socks and shoes and eye protection! Nasty little suckers! Now to germinate them and show them whose boss!

Mandrew968 Grand Master

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I just collected seeds yesterday, black, cleaned em today wearing gloves got squirted in a few spots and ouch! Those suckers burn like acid on your skin! If anyone collects and cleans these I recommend long sleeves pants gloves socks and shoes and eye protection! Nasty little suckers! Now to germinate them and show them whose boss!

You don't have to yell. :winkie:

Palmdude Mentor

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THIS WOULD BE YELLING!!!!!' :)

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