Germination of Archontophoenix seeds

[DoomsDave]

Howdyall:

I sent out oodles of Archontophoenix seeds last year, and I'm curious to know what the germ rate was.

Let me know, go ahead and just post here.

One kind was the Happy Hurricane Hybrid, which is the King X Alexandrae cross; the other was A. tuckeri.

I sent seeds from Oz to Croatia, to Louisiana, to Kansas, to Indonesia to India, and many points between.

Really curious to know how it went for you!

best

dave

[dalmatiansoap]

Unfortunally zero rate for HHH Here.

[PalmatierMeg]

Hey Dave, despite your generosity not one seed germinated. I don't get it.

[DoomsDave]

Hey Dave, despite your generosity not one seed germinated. I don't get it.

WHich species?

Hybrid, tuckeri or both?

Really want to know

[PalmatierMeg]

Hey Dave, despite your generosity not one seed germinated. I don't get it.

WHich species?

Hybrid, tuckeri or both?

Really want to know

Both

[DoomsDave]

Sigh

[Tropicgardener]

Maybe they were homesick and saying damn you Dave for sending us to a foreign country .........I normally get around %100 percent germination here in their homeland

[dalmatiansoap]

Maybe they were homesick and saying damn you Dave for sending us to a foreign country .........I normally get around %100 percent germination here in their homeland

Maybe its about a time to give your seeds a try!

[_Rich]

nicht ein for either down here either...yo no se amigo - but thank you for the generosity Dave

[Succulentum]

The same here, nothing for the both,

thank you for having allowed us to try them

[Palmə häl′ik]

king palm seeds are so vigorous too...

[Palmə häl′ik]

da bees weren't gettin' busy enough...

[Gonzer]

Davey m'lad, your philanthropic deeds will not go unrewarded upon your passing.

[The Germinator]

Hey Dave I got zilcho....I was 0'fer on those seeds you gave me. There still chuggin in th G'house.

How long do they take?

[Tropicgardener]

Maybe they were homesick and saying damn you Dave for sending us to a foreign country .........I normally get around %100 percent germination here in their homeland

Maybe its about a time to give your seeds a try!

I have not one Archontophoenix growing in my garden unless you include the little A. alexandrae seedlings that continually pop up everywhere from seeds dropped by birds and bats.

[quaman58]

The good news is that I don't feel like such an incompetent; the bad news is none of mine sprouted either. Maybe they're like turtle eggs Dave; you can't rotate 'em. Kind thanks anyway!

Bret

[Dave-Vero]

A really discouraging old discussion. My A. tuckeri's are producing lots of seeds, though I think all three are siblings, so there might possibly be some problems if the plants aren't self-compatible. In any case, I'll be sending seed envelopes to several people.

In terms of harvesting, it seems easier to catch red seeds from the inflorescences rather than gather from the ground.

Has anyone had germination success?

A University of Florida bulletin cites Archontophoenix as benefitting from presoaking, but I think these seeds will have been sufficiently soaked by the recent rainy spell.

[Jim in Los Altos]

A really discouraging old discussion. My A. tuckeri's are producing lots of seeds, though I think all three are siblings, so there might possibly be some problems if the plants aren't self-compatible. In any case, I'll be sending seed envelopes to several people.

In terms of harvesting, it seems easier to catch red seeds from the inflorescences rather than gather from the ground.

Has anyone had germination success?

A University of Florida bulletin cites Archontophoenix as benefitting from presoaking, but I think these seeds will have been sufficiently soaked by the recent rainy spell.

Yeah, lots of success. The seeds fall from my Archotophoenix and then they sprout by the hundreds underneath the palms from which they fell. It's got to be one of the easiest palm genus to grow from seed.

[Dave-Vero]

Since our local climate is fairly similar to southern Queensland, I think the seeds will go into envelopes this week and we'll see if they start germinating while the rainy season lasts.

I've got scads of Carpentaria seedlings, but of course they're from the Darwin area, different climate.

[JT in Japan]

Since our local climate is fairly similar to southern Queensland, I think the seeds will go into envelopes this week and we'll see if they start germinating while the rainy season lasts.

I've got scads of Carpentaria seedlings, but of course they're from the Darwin area, different climate.

Dave, if you'd like to sell (or send) some carpentaria seeds, I'd love to try and grow them here in Japan. Send me a PM if you're interested; I am.

JT

[Funkthulhu]

Since this is a germination thread and since Dave sent out another batch of A. tuckeri seeds, I have a question.

When you soak your seeds, does it matter what water you use? I had planned on using distilled, but if you don't have chlorinated water would tap water be okay? Will osmotic pressure from distilled water cause the seeds to pop? (am I overthinking this?)

[Kai]

Since this is a germination thread and since Dave sent out another batch of A. tuckeri seeds, I have a question.

When you soak your seeds, does it matter what water you use? I had planned on using distilled, but if you don't have chlorinated water would tap water be okay? Will osmotic pressure from distilled water cause the seeds to pop? (am I overthinking this?)

My guess is you're overthinking yes. I had good results before with alexandrea seeds. They germinate very easily within weeks if fresh. But I believe they lose their viability quite fast.

[Cluster]

Our ARCHONTOPHOENIX CUNNINGHAMIANA full of seeds:

and on the ground

Do you think these will grow if we keep the grass moist?

[Dave-Vero]

Cluster, that's an exceedingly happy palm. A. cunninghamiana has a large range, including a range in elevation, so it's possible that different populations have different seed germination preferences. I do suspect that they mostly germinate pretty quickly after falling from the tree.

[Cluster]

Thank you it is on Madeira Island some 459 feet an close to the sea, I think we had many of its seeds spread by birds, germinating in large containers I might show it later

[DoomsDave]

Okay.

Turns out the infamous Happy Hurricane Hybrid is a sterile Lothario; lots of seed, a germ rate of about 1% or less. It produces garbage cans full of seed that fall at the base and

and

nothing. Except a baby or two.

Sigh.

The new tuckeri, on the other hand, should be better. I have bees, buzz and multiple palms in bloom. I tested them, and all sank like stones. Maybe use them in place of buck-shot . . .

[DoomsDave]

AND!

Look in the freebie section and send me your address and I'll send you the latest crop of tuckeri seed.

Remember Al Pacino in Scarface with that mountain of cocaine? I have that many seeds, too big to snort . . . .

[Dave-Vero]

I can also send some A. tuckeri.

[DoomsDave]

whoo ee, let's tuckerize the world!

[Kai]

AND!

Look in the freebie section and send me your address and I'll send you the latest crop of tuckeri seed.

Remember Al Pacino in Scarface with that mountain of cocaine? I have that many seeds, too big to snort . . . .

LOL! They will get stuck, don't snort them!

[nitsua0895]

I recently received some Archantophoenix Cunninghamiana seeds from Pando and I'm planning to soak them for a couple of days and then put them in a mixture of peat moss and perlite.

Are these able to germinate at temperatures between 70-80F or do they usually require warmer temps? 

I'm new to germinating... in fact I'm still waiting for my first Washingtonia Filiferas and Robustas to sprout which is embarrassing considering how they pop up everywhere in California  

[DoomsDave]

It's easier than falling off a log (go ahead, try that sometime!)

It's easier than  . . . .

Put the seeds in a pot big enough to hold them all in a single layer of nice potting soil (any commercial brand will do) about 3" deep. Spread out, more or less evenly, then cover lightly. Keep moist. Peat is a pain, if it gets dry it's the devil to wet again. I recommend potting soil instead.

(You don't need a red shoe, just there for scale.)

[DoomsDave]

And, if they don't grow, there's Dave's Bottomless Cup of Archie Seeds, a mere PM away.

[Silas_Sancona]

Dave,

Interesting that the Alex X King cross seeds you get off your specimen might? be sterile.. the supposed cross here, er, up in St. Pete at Kopsick dumps seed that i have had no issues germinating, and all i do is shell 'em. No soaking or anything before they go into com. pots. I do try to collect the freshest seed i can but thats it.

 

[DoomsDave]

2 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Dave,

Interesting that the Alex X King cross seeds you get off your specimen might? be sterile.. the supposed cross here, er, up in St. Pete at Kopsick dumps seed that i have had no issues germinating, and all i do is shell 'em. No soaking or anything before they go into com. pots. I do try to collect the freshest seed i can but thats it.

 

Well, this isn't the cross, this is the plant from the cross that's self-sterile, at least this one is.

Alas! So beautiful.

[Silas_Sancona]

1 minute ago, DoomsDave said:

Well, this isn't the cross, this is the plant from the cross that's self-sterile, at least this one is.

Alas! So beautiful.
 

She sure is...

[DoomsDave]

Silas, purple flowers?

 

[DoomsDave]

pant pant pant

Hup hup

 

[Silas_Sancona]

7 minutes ago, DoomsDave said:

Silas, purple flowers?

 

Ya know, i can't remember Dave. Will take a close look next time i'm up there. Had been tagged as an A X C cross but a lot of the signs in the park get vandalized and this was one of them. Doesn't look like any of the other Archontophoenix species in the collection there though.

-Nathan

[Hamal]

4 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

And, if they don't grow, there's Dave's Bottomless Cup of Archie Seeds, a mere PM away.

Hey Dave, I sent you a PM regarding A. tuckeri. Have they shipped yet? Thank you, Frank