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hyophorbe amaricaulis

Palmə häl′ik

By Palmə häl′ik
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Palmə häl′ik

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I just caught a PBS show the other day on a gentlemen on the Hawaiian islands that happens to have eight or nine of these, with a few seeding already that he's distributed to his close friends and nurserymen... He didn't come out and say it, but those of us who know palms, knows what he was talking about... He was very precise about his description, and habitat and locale of this 'lone' palm... :winkie:

Out of curiosity, are any of these individuals board members here, and if so, would you care to show off your truly rare palm....

It won't be long and it'll be seeding in your gardens to spread the love!

Thanks.

~Ray.

~or does anyone have photos of said persons garden... I've heard nine acres Hawaiian island style... Hint, he's a buddahist. And moved to the islands to study as such...

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Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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It was my understanding that that "lone" palm never set viable seed. Did this change recently?

Jody

DoomsDave Grand Master

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It was my understanding that that "lone" palm never set viable seed. Did this change recently?

Jody

My understanding as well.

If things have changed, so much for the better.

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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Yea right. Let's see some pictures!

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Moose Grand Master

Moose

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I never knew that Dypsis Dean was a buddahist? :huh:

:interesting:

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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It was my understanding that that "lone" palm never set viable seed. Did this change recently?

Jody

My understanding as well.

If things have changed, so much for the better.

I agree, completely... I would just like some kind of proof.

Jody

The Germinator Mentor

The Germinator

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What was the name of the show?

Ed Mijares

Whittier, Ca

Psyco Palm Collector Wheeler Dealer

Zone 10a?

Palmə häl′ik Veteran

Palmə häl′ik

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The mans name is William Stanley Merwin. The PBS tidbit was about poetry though, a real nail biter to get through... :angry:

Afte doin' a little more research, I've come to find out it's H. indica he's been given credit for... Apparently he'd brought back the plant from extinction.

Although the PBS segment, he clearly makes it sound as if it's the H. amaricaulis he's brought back... His description was Reunion Is., just outside the botanical garden... A 'lone palm'...

Somebody here's gotta know him.... Either Bo, or Jeff... The guys gotta get his palms from somewhere; right.

~Ray.

Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

Palmə häl′ik Veteran

Palmə häl′ik

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He's credited for bringin' back ALOT of the Hawaiian natives...

~Ray.

Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

Mandrew968 Grand Master

Mandrew968

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Indica's not rare--I have one dying in a pot at my house, right now.

Palmə häl′ik Veteran

Palmə häl′ik

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ohmy bad.

I forgot you were into palms ten years ago when this was a issue... :hmm:

Your H. indica's around that age now eh...

~Ray.

Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

Mandrew968 Grand Master

Mandrew968

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ohmy bad.

I forgot you were into palms ten years ago when this was a issue... :hmm:

Your H. indica's around that age now eh...

~Ray.

10 years ago?

Kim Grand Master

Kim

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Thanks to the efforts of M.S. Merwin and Jeff Marcus, H. indica is readily available today, but that was not always true. Similar stories can be told for many of the palms newer growers tend to take for granted. It would be interesting to collect those stories in one place, if only we knew them...

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
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edric Grand Master

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Only one Hyophorbe amaricaulis, and I just donated a 52 month old H. indca with 4 inches of trunk to Leu Gardens in Orlando, and I've got 2 dozen more, Ed

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sarasota alex Veteran

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Ray is correct. William S. Merwin is credited for bringing H.indica back from the brink of extinction in the late 1980s.http://cms.herbalgram.org/heg/volume7/10October/WSMerwin.html

Also I found this amazing video about Mr. Merwin's garden - http://www.merwinconservancy.org/a-walk-through-the-palms/

He talks about the fact that part of his land was leased in 19th century for a German botanist who had a home there and collected palms from all over the pacific. In the video he show some palms on his property planted by that 19th centrury botanist. I assume that he is in fact talking about Hermann Wendland.

DALION Experienced

DALION

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Hyophorbe amaricaulis may not be a palm that has been propagated but has it ever been hybridized? I'm sure it would generate some demand and could bring in some money to help the efforts of getting pure plants produced some day.

richnorm Grand Master

richnorm

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H. amaricaulis has now been germinated by the Mauritian Mininstry of Agriculture. Pretty sure this was written about in Palms last year. If memory serves five plants were produced. I wonder how they are doing now?

Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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Strange, but true. I went on my first collecting trip down to Costa Rica and met up w/ my good friend, Marco Herrea. While walking through his garden, he pointed out a H. indica, which was at the time about 8' tall as I remember. My first one that I had ever seen. And this was around 1992-93. It blew me away, as this was extreamly rare back then.Marco's garden was a place we visited during the 2008 biennial.

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Palmə häl′ik Veteran

Palmə häl′ik

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I don't think he's into Malagasi palms....

Didn't really see any in any of the footage so far...

~Ray.

Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

olivier971 Mentor

olivier971

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"Mr. Merwin has been credited with saving the near-extinct Hyophorbe indica " :lol: :lol:

H indica is not rare at all.

There are a lot of H indica here, in la Reunion island .. in a lot of places, ans of differents forms (red, green) ...

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Olivier
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ErikSJI Veteran

ErikSJI

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"Mr. Merwin has been credited with saving the near-extinct Hyophorbe indica " :lol: :lol:

H indica is not rare at all.

There are a lot of H indica here, in la Reunion island .. in a lot of places, ans of differents forms (red, green) ...

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I foresee seed poachers and private messages in your future. Those look to be over 10 years old to me.

LJG Grand Master

LJG

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"Mr. Merwin has been credited with saving the near-extinct Hyophorbe indica " :lol: :lol:

H indica is not rare at all.

There are a lot of H indica here, in la Reunion island .. in a lot of places, ans of differents forms (red, green) ...

GBPIX_photo_442091.jpg

GBPIX_photo_442093.jpg

GBPIX_photo_442094.jpg

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This was not the case in the 80s.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Palmə häl′ik Veteran

Palmə häl′ik

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Those trees there might be some of the ones that he 'sent back' to reunion island upon germination...

~Ray.

Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

sarasota alex Veteran

sarasota alex

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Is this the correct timeline? http://www.kew.org/c...pdu/hypbib.html

The only comment I can make is that the Cuban palms reported in 1998 were studied in 2000 and confirmed to be very old H. lagenicaulis, not H. amaricaulis

ErikSJI Veteran

ErikSJI

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From the interview:

Many endangered species are growing here,and one species in particular, the Hyophorbe indica from Reunion Island, was listed as extinct when Inge Hoffinan sent me a few seeds in the 1980s. one remaining tree of the species had been found in the botanical garden on that island, and it had provided those seeds. I managed to grow serveral trees and eventually began sending the seeds to a palm nursery on the Big Island for distribution, and they are available to tropical gardeners now.

Why does he not come out and say hyophorbe amaricaulis? Rather then indica?

http://www.merwinconservancy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Merwin.Essay_.pdf

olivier971 Mentor

olivier971

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"Mr. Merwin has been credited with saving the near-extinct Hyophorbe indica " :lol: :lol:

H indica is not rare at all.

There are a lot of H indica here, in la Reunion island .. in a lot of places, ans of differents forms (red, green) ...

This was not the case in the 80s.

Yes, it was ..

Those are wild. And quite common ....

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Olivier
My Flickr Album
Palmeraie Union Society - Ti-Palm' Society

LJG Grand Master

LJG

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"Mr. Merwin has been credited with saving the near-extinct Hyophorbe indica " :lol: :lol:

H indica is not rare at all.

There are a lot of H indica here, in la Reunion island .. in a lot of places, ans of differents forms (red, green) ...

This was not the case in the 80s.

Yes, it was ..

Those are wild. And quite common ....

GBPIX_photo_442109.jpg

I guess all the stories are wrong then. Maybe they found some after?

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

olivier971 Mentor

olivier971

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"Mr. Merwin has been credited with saving the near-extinct Hyophorbe indica " :lol: :lol:

H indica is not rare at all.

There are a lot of H indica here, in la Reunion island .. in a lot of places, ans of differents forms (red, green) ...

This was not the case in the 80s.

Yes, it was ..

Those are wild. And quite common ....

I guess all the stories are wrong then. Maybe they found some after?

Surely not.

H indica is named locally as "Palmiste cochon" (pig palm), because it has always been used by local population to feed pigs (fruits)

Olivier
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Palmeraie Union Society - Ti-Palm' Society

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