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Areca macrocalyx anyone try this in so cal???

Stevetoad

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Stevetoad Grand Master

Stevetoad

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Areca macrocalyx. has anyone tried this one out in san diego? since its from a high elevation i wonder how much cold it can take....

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Naughty thoughts Steve!

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Pedro 65 Grand Master

Pedro 65

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Tried a few times here to no avail, it really does not like it below10c. This is a VERY Tropical Palm.

Stevetoad Grand Master

Stevetoad

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Tried a few times here to no avail, it really does not like it below10c. This is a VERY Tropical Palm.

so maybe it would LOVE 0c....ok i guess this is out. :angry:

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Pedro 65 Grand Master

Pedro 65

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Tried a few times here to no avail, it really does not like it below10c. This is a VERY Tropical Palm.

so maybe it would LOVE 0c....ok i guess this is out. :angry:

Steve, if you want a palm with a Bright Red Stem and is proven cold hardy..Prestoea Ensiformis...It has Entire Leaves as well...VERY Good looking palm, look out for it, seen them with both Red and Green stems, an exciting New Palm.. :) Pete

Stevetoad Grand Master

Stevetoad

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Tried a few times here to no avail, it really does not like it below10c. This is a VERY Tropical Palm.

so maybe it would LOVE 0c....ok i guess this is out. :angry:

Steve, if you want a palm with a Bright Red Stem and is proven cold hardy..Prestoea Ensiformis...It has Entire Leaves as well...VERY Good looking palm, look out for it, seen them with both Red and Green stems, an exciting New Palm.. :) Pete

ok Pete. im now in love with P.ensiformis. now the hard part is to find one! thanks for the heads up on that one. do you know how cold they can take?

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Pedro 65 Grand Master

Pedro 65

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Tried a few times here to no avail, it really does not like it below10c. This is a VERY Tropical Palm.

so maybe it would LOVE 0c....ok i guess this is out. :angry:

Steve, if you want a palm with a Bright Red Stem and is proven cold hardy..Prestoea Ensiformis...It has Entire Leaves as well...VERY Good looking palm, look out for it, seen them with both Red and Green stems, an exciting New Palm.. :) Pete

ok Pete. im now in love with P.ensiformis. now the hard part is to find one! thanks for the heads up on that one. do you know how cold they can take?

Steve, ours didnt flinch at a few 3c freezing mornings, their natural habitat elevation is 350 mtrs to just under 2000 mtrs,( Hendersons Palms of Sth Americas) good luck in finding a few, and if ordering from abroad, ask for the Reddest ones, RPS has seed as well.

Matt in SD Veteran

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Hi Steve,

I've tried Areca macrocalyx a couple times. The first one I got died in my unheated greenhouse. I tried again with two, and one of those made it through a couple winters in the same unheated greenhouse and grew very well. I planted it as a large 5g plant at my previous house which is in a very good microclimate (33F was the all time low in 2007, most years only have 1-2 nights under 40F). It was in a sheltered spot, in perfect soil, near a retaining wall and not too far from the house...a perfect spot. It was dead by sometime in January I think. It went from looking perfectly fine, to a pile of mush in less than a week. I don't think these have a chance here.

I have some Prestoea ensiformis seedlings right now. If anyone has any tips on growing these I'd love to hear them. Mine are the most horrible looking living palms I have. The leaves start browning before they've even fully emerged, and and the plants are just mottled brown, black and green. But they're alive and seem pretty well rooted. Not sure what I'm doing wrong, I just put them in a darker spot in the greenhouse to see if it's just too much light. It would be really cool if these will grow in SoCal, a very cool palm.

Mat

San Diego

0.6 Acres of a south facing, gently sloped dirt pile, soon to be impenetrable jungle

East of Mount Soledad, in the biggest cold sink in San Diego County.

Zone 10a (I hope), Sunset 24

Stevetoad Grand Master

Stevetoad

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Hi Steve,

I've tried Areca macrocalyx a couple times. The first one I got died in my unheated greenhouse. I tried again with two, and one of those made it through a couple winters in the same unheated greenhouse and grew very well. I planted it as a large 5g plant at my previous house which is in a very good microclimate (33F was the all time low in 2007, most years only have 1-2 nights under 40F). It was in a sheltered spot, in perfect soil, near a retaining wall and not too far from the house...a perfect spot. It was dead by sometime in January I think. It went from looking perfectly fine, to a pile of mush in less than a week. I don't think these have a chance here.

I have some Prestoea ensiformis seedlings right now. If anyone has any tips on growing these I'd love to hear them. Mine are the most horrible looking living palms I have. The leaves start browning before they've even fully emerged, and and the plants are just mottled brown, black and green. But they're alive and seem pretty well rooted. Not sure what I'm doing wrong, I just put them in a darker spot in the greenhouse to see if it's just too much light. It would be really cool if these will grow in SoCal, a very cool palm.

Mat

i dont stand a chance then. my microclimate sucks.

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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I have mine in an unheated greenhouse & its a little thrashed from the recent cold ... The greenhouse got down to 39 F . Not sure if its going to work outside next year. I'll have to look into Prestoea ensiformis

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aussiearoids Grand Master

aussiearoids

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The high altitude info for Areca macrocalyx is incorrect , plants seen there are cultivated ones ..sihbt:rolleyes:

Michael in palm paradise,

Tully, wet tropics in Australia, over 4 meters of rain every year.

Home of the Golden Gumboot, its over 8m high , our record annual rainfall.

Tropicgardener Mentor

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Does anyone know if it has the same cold hardiness as Areca catechu or Areca guppyana?

Andrew,
Airlie Beach, Whitsundays

Tropical Queensland

paulgila Grand Master

paulgila

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the rumour going round is that areca triandra is the only areca we have even the remotest chance of growing here. :winkie:

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

aussiearoids Grand Master

aussiearoids

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been promised seeds from one growing in Katherine , but not red crownshaft form .

It gets pretty cold there sometimes ..

Michael in palm paradise,

Tully, wet tropics in Australia, over 4 meters of rain every year.

Home of the Golden Gumboot, its over 8m high , our record annual rainfall.

Mandrew968 Grand Master

Mandrew968

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First is Areca trianda, next is Areca vestiaria, and then Areca catechu as far as the order of hardiest--cold tolerance wise. Areca macrocalyx is more sensitive than a lipstick, some say...

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Well my palm is officially dead. It was growing fine until we had that cold spell that brought my greenhouse (non-heated) down to 40F. The leaves got spotted & it was downhill since. A 4 week death ..... Back to the drawing board. I do have an Areca triandra that I started from seed that is growing outside just fine. I'll try to post a picture today.

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porkchop

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Here are a couple of pictures of my Areca triandra growing outside .. seems to be happy

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Stevetoad Grand Master

Stevetoad

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Looks nice capt. Porkchop.

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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