propagating med fan pups

[pfancy]

i have a real nice blue med fan with offshoots and would like to split the pups off and grow them. anyone have any experience w this? thanks

[Stevetoad]

if the pup has roots id give it a try. i think its been done with arenga engleri.

[mlovecan]

It would seem quite easy - but it's not! I've tried it 5 or 6 times with no success.

I've always felt a little superthrive or other Vitamin B supplement may give it a better chance though!

Regards

Maurice

[pfancy]

thanks maurice-ive tried also and no luck. im now "half" splitting the pupps from the main trunk and waiting to see it roots develope

[hanapalms]

Patrick,

I would make sure the pup has grown some roots first, then look for the umbilical cord from the mama and sever it without moving the pup for about two months. That will give it enough time to rely on its own root system for survival. Be sure there are enough roots, use your best judgment. Then after a couple months, trench around the pup as deep as the root system, wait a week before extracting the whole root ball and pup. This works well with sensitive clustering palms like Cyrtostachys renda, It should work for you.

[pfancy]

thanks william

[LJG]

It won't happen in my opinion. The plant has one root initiation zone so when you cut off a small pup it is like cutting off your arm and hoping you grow a new body. Here is one simple way to look at - has anyone actually cut a pup and got it to live? I have never heard of it. Has anyone actually witnessed success? Also, the growing point would be far into the mother plant on a small pup, so you kill it on removal. On a big plant you simply have too big of a plant and no roots of its own tied to that pup so it will dry up and die. Even Pygmy date palms that are actually multiple seed plantings are nearly impossible to divide. And they each have their own RIZ.

I guess if you have the time and want to invest the effort, go for it. You just never know. But if you don't, just buy a new one.

[pfancy]

yo len, thanks for the info thats a good breakdown. like i said i separated one pup about half way a couple months ago and will see if any roots develop in a couple months-thing is still alive at least.

[LJG]

yo len, thanks for the info thats a good breakdown. like i said i separated one pup about half way a couple months ago and will see if any roots develop in a couple months-thing is still alive at least.

Got any pics? Curious to see the size of it.

FYI. I cut off some monster limbs of one of my Med Fans a few years back and threw the carcus into a haul away pile. The think looked alive even after a few weeks when I hauled it away. .

[aztropic]

has anyone actually cut a pup and got it to live? I have never heard of it. Has anyone actually witnessed success?

Although not the same species,I've cut 1 gallon size suckers off my Medjool date palm trunk and rooted them many times...

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

Edited January 11, 2012 by aztropic

[aztropic]

a pic of a larger "blue" that I keep trimmed to a single trunk.

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

[LJG]

has anyone actually cut a pup and got it to live? I have never heard of it. Has anyone actually witnessed success?

Although not the same species,I've cut 1 gallon size suckers off my Medjool date palm trunk and rooted them many times...

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

I don't doubt it. There is even an eHow article on it

http://www.ehow.com/how_7633064_grow-medjool-date-palm.html

There seem to be quit a few pinnate palms people have successfully rooted suckers with. It is unfortunate there is not a botanist that frequents this forum and can explain things in real science.

[tew]

Have tried to seperate new plants four times from the Chamerops (green and blue forms) but have never been successful!

[pfancy]

mine looks exactly like aztropics-finely deep divided nice and blue. ill just buy more

[Sutter Bob]

Have tried with both forms - no luck, but I'm still trying (the gradual separation technique).

We'll see but I'm not too optimistic.

[fan palm]

Have divided many Cyrtostachys renda pups. They take a while to establish but when they do they grow like any seed progagated plants...

Edited January 13, 2012 by fan palm

[The Germinator]

A gopher had at it with my Cat Palm and I ended up with a bunch of trunks some still had reminents of a root or two and I transplanted those and they seem to be taking.

[iamjv]

In my opinion it's probably not impossible but highly unlikely. Date palms are another matter all together, as the suckers (that are successfully severed and grown) come from underground and usually have started growing their own roots or have the properties to do so. (This plant propagation technique is used in the commercial date arena to promote only the best date palms as seeds have a lower quality reliability.) Unlike the date palms, meds seem to sucker at ground level and I've never seen a sucker with it's own individual root system. Best of luck and keep us up to date on any progress!