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Butia X Parajubaea sunkha

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Tom in Tucson Veteran

Tom in Tucson

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2 hours ago, TexasColdHardyPalms said:

Here are the two b x pjs. I also have b x pjc which arennot in this pic. 

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Joseph, those look like the 2 I own (1 is a year older and much larger). Is that a Patric(k) Schafer band leftover in the top container?

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 102°, Lo 72° -8/25

Casas Adobes - NW of Tucson since July 2014

formerly in the San Carlos region of San Diego

TexasColdHardyPalms Grand Master

TexasColdHardyPalms

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Yes it is. These are Schafer hybrids. My butia x lytocarium died though. 

Zeeth Grand Master

Zeeth

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50 minutes ago, TexasColdHardyPalms said:

Yes it is. These are Schafer hybrids. My butia x lytocarium died though. 

Too bad, that sounds like it'd be an interesting mix. 

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

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corsafafa Enthusiast

corsafafa

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new pictures from this hybrid??? 

corsafafa Enthusiast

corsafafa

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waouh, beautiful hybrid ! fantastic ! How olt this hybrid has BEN?

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Richard Booth Enthusiast

Richard Booth

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Hi all,

Just re-booting this thread to see if anyone has any pinnate Butia x PJ Sunkha yet?

I have one that is approx four years old and is splitting but not pinnate. Sorry about all the mess in the background of the photo.

To me this is totally different to BxPJCoccoides, as Gary pointed out earlier in this thread. The leaves split differently, and it is much more glaucous, less green like the BxPJC. The V of the leaves is still very flat, like parajub, and so i do think it is a hybrid.. Just quite a bit different from it's cousin.

I'd be interested to see pics of other people's.

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Ben in Norcal Grand Master

Ben in Norcal

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On 5/30/2017, 2:06:39, Richard Booth said:

Hi all,

Just re-booting this thread to see if anyone has any pinnate Butia x PJ Sunkha yet?

I have one that is approx four years old and is splitting but not pinnate. Sorry about all the mess in the background of the photo.

To me this is totally different to BxPJCoccoides, as Gary pointed out earlier in this thread. The leaves split differently, and it is much more glaucous, less green like the BxPJC. The V of the leaves is still very flat, like parajub, and so i do think it is a hybrid.. Just quite a bit different from it's cousin.

I'd be interested to see pics of other people's.

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I have one 4-5 feet tall and fully pinnate, but can't post pictures on this forum.  PM me your e-mail and I will shoot you a pic from this morning.

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

Richard Booth Enthusiast

Richard Booth

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Hi ben. I thi k i saw it on the FB group? That looks like it's going to become one stunning palm. 

Ben in Norcal Grand Master

Ben in Norcal

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3 hours ago, Richard Booth said:

Hi ben. I thi k i saw it on the FB group? That looks like it's going to become one stunning palm. 

Yes, that's the one Richard.  I have to post pics to the FB group since I can't post them from my phone here.  You definitely have a hybrid as well!

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

Richard Booth Enthusiast

Richard Booth

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6 hours ago, Ben in Norcal said:

Yes, that's the one Richard.  I have to post pics to the FB group since I can't post them from my phone here.  You definitely have a hybrid as well!

Ben. Hope you don't mind me posting your pic on your behalf?

It's a cool looking hybrid and i think the world should see it  :o)

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Richard Booth Enthusiast

Richard Booth

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Bump.. @Ben in Norcal is there any chance of an updated pic of your BxSunkha please? 

Such a cool looking palm, and much faster in your climate than mine. 

 

Ben in Norcal Grand Master

Ben in Norcal

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6 minutes ago, Richard Booth said:

Bump.. @Ben in Norcal is there any chance of an updated pic of your BxSunkha please? 

Such a cool looking palm, and much faster in your climate than mine. 

 

5g bucket for scale!

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Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

Richard Booth Enthusiast

Richard Booth

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Wow - mega quick response and... WOW WOW WOW what a palm. It's got the perfect mix of both parents. 

I am amazed at how different it is from Bx PJC.

Thanks for the pic Ben :greenthumb:

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Ben in Norcal Grand Master

Ben in Norcal

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26 minutes ago, Richard Booth said:

Wow - mega quick response and... WOW WOW WOW what a palm. It's got the perfect mix of both parents. 

 I am amazed at how different it is from Bx PJC.

 Thanks for the pic Ben :greenthumb:

Yes, it is much more upright than my two other BxP crosses (B. paraguayensis x P. cocoides and B. odorata x P. cocoides.)

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

Tropicdoc Veteran

Tropicdoc

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Also seems that the leaflets are much droopier than my bxpjc. It’s cool looking. Do they emerge from the rachis at a “v” or flat? 

alohas Enthusiast

alohas

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Looking great! I got a first one 3 years ago that is definitely not an hybrid. Patric sent another one last summer that I just planted yesterday and looks like the real thing. 

Richard Booth Enthusiast

Richard Booth

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@alohas do you have photos of the two for comparison please?

RJ Grand Master

RJ

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29 minutes ago, Richard Booth said:

@alohas do you have photos of the two for comparison please?

I've a strap leaf of each, would that help? 

Richard Booth Enthusiast

Richard Booth

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42 minutes ago, RJ said:

I've a strap leaf of each, would that help? 

I kinda meant the two BxPJS (hybrid and not) but it would be good to see all the photos you have.

I shall post photos of mine later.

alohas Enthusiast

alohas

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19 hours ago, Richard Booth said:

@alohas do you have photos of the two for comparison please?

here's a picture of each

the first one I got highly suspected to be 'just' a butia

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the replacement

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Richard Booth Enthusiast

Richard Booth

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Thanks :greenthumb:

I agree the first one is butia, nice looking none though.

Here's mine, I just potted it on today. It's only a tiddler- they dont grow so fast here in the UK..

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RJ Grand Master

RJ

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Okay first pic is bxpjc second and third are bxpjs

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OC2Texaspalmlvr Grand Master

OC2Texaspalmlvr

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Thanks @Ben in Norcal for the update what a beaut !!! Trying to decide what Patric hybrids to get. I think this looks like a winner =) 

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T J 

RJ Grand Master

RJ

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3 hours ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

Thanks @Ben in Norcal for the update what a beaut !!! Trying to decide what Patric hybrids to get. I think this looks like a winner =) 

Mine turned out to not be a successful cross, thankfully Patrick has offered to replace it. I really like this cross and am looking forward to growing it! I

OC2Texaspalmlvr Grand Master

OC2Texaspalmlvr

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16 minutes ago, RJ said:

Mine turned out to not be a successful cross, thankfully Patrick has offered to replace it. I really like this cross and am looking forward to growing it! I

Ok that's the one I saw you talk about.  Hes out of Torallyi which I'm bummed about =/ but hopefully still have some of these left =) 

T J 

Josh76 Proficient

Josh76

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Here's a pic of my B. odorata x P. sunkha from Patric... it's a little slow but would probably speed up if I was brave enough to put it in the ground!

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OC2Texaspalmlvr Grand Master

OC2Texaspalmlvr

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2 hours ago, Josh76 said:

Here's a pic of my B. odorata x P. sunkha from Patric... it's a little slow but would probably speed up if I was brave enough to put it in the ground!

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Looks like it's ready for some more room =) How long have you had it ? 

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Josh76 Proficient

Josh76

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21 hours ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

Looks like it's ready for some more room =) How long have you had it ? 

I've had it five years so I'm guessing it's about 6/7 years old total

OC2Texaspalmlvr Grand Master

OC2Texaspalmlvr

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Needs more heat I'm guessing , if only it could get into the ground !! 

T J 

Tropicdoc Veteran

Tropicdoc

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On 4/25/2020 at 2:49 PM, Meangreen94z said:

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These hybrids look nice and droopy. Mine are much stiffer. Not sure which I prefer. I always feel like droopy palms look more tropical. I guess it’s the coconut archetype.

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OC2Texaspalmlvr Grand Master

OC2Texaspalmlvr

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12 hours ago, Tropicdoc said:

These hybrids look nice and droopy. Mine are much stiffer. Not sure which I prefer. I always feel like droopy palms look more tropical. I guess it’s the coconut archetype.

Would love to see yours , are they in the ground ? 

T J 

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RJ Grand Master

RJ

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On 4/25/2020 at 8:21 PM, RJ said:

Mine turned out to not be a successful cross, thankfully Patrick has offered to replace it. I really like this cross and am looking forward to growing it! I

So returning to this thread, I received my replacement BxPJSunkha from Patrick recently. As he has demonstrated in the past with others he stands by his crosses. :greenthumb:

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8B palms

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So my B x sunkha looks very similar to your Josh, mine has been in the ground for 3 years, it is painfully slow, and quite glaucous not the green like I am seeing here.  I will have to snap a pic but its coming down cats and dogs outside right now thanks to feeder bands from tropical storm Crystabal.  I got this from Patric, I have never had anything from him not be what it was sold as.  I also got a B x parajubaea cocoides at the same time and likewise it has really not done anything in the same period of time.  It also seems to have very small pseudo spines on the petioles, the sunkha has none.

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