Floridians beware

[spockvr6]

(epicure3 @ Jan. 25 2007,10:10)

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Boy, you Floridians have a warped perspective on what winter really is.

As of 1015AM......This should remedy our disillusions  The last of the warm air looks about ready to be pushed out of SE FL.

[epicure3]

Knock on palm trunk that it doesn't get colder than that.

[spockvr6]

(epicure3 @ Jan. 25 2007,11:00)

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Knock on palm trunk that it doesn't get colder than that.

I doubt we have enough wood.

[gsn]

(spockvr6 @ Jan. 25 2007,10:01)

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[Yeah....my dumb @ss "I know I am going to jinx us, but Ill say this anyway BS"......LOL.

It seems the universe does listen afterall ???

Larry,

I hope that DOGHOUSE is heated!

At least the NWS doesn't have those pretty little BLUE circles surrounding Florida, as of YET! ???

If they do miss it by 4 or 5  degrees tonight it could be real interesting. At least the wind is supposed to stay up a little ,which might prevent frost if it gets in the mid 30's.

What did HAPP  do with  EL NINO when we need it? :laugh:

GOES satellites, GLF models, FLG models, air plane models,troughs,ENSO's, high pressure ,low pressure, artic air masses, southern jet streams,  northern jet stream, sargaso sea  jet stream, polar high plunging, cold air advection, retrograding west,east north south,blocking high,blocking low, plume of mositure.

If flip flopping makes Ray dizzy ,then all this makes me even dizzier!

I'm going to take TIKITIKI's lead and say tell when when it gets cold enough to bring out the heaters and blankets.

Oh wait  just a dang minute, they can't  tell me....as I have a forecast range for tonight of 39 to 44!  

[Mike4284m]

We're holding at about 65F here in the Ft. Laud area.  It's supposed to get down to the low 50s tonight.

[gsn]

Larry,

Unfortunately the wunderground just dropped you another 2 degrees to a low of 36.

But before they even dropped the forecast low ,they had an advisory from NOAA . My question is why would they put out this advisory and not forecast freezing temperatures? ???

Statement as of 5:25 AM EST on January 25, 2007

... Much colder and drier air to move into west central and southwest Florida

tonight and Friday...

A developing area of low pressure over the south central Gulf early

this morning will move east across the southern peninsula later today

and into the western Atlantic tonight and Friday. A cold front trailing

from this low will sweep across the region later today as cold high

pressure builds in from the northwest. An increasing northerly wind

flow in the wake of the front will usher in a much colder and drier

air mass which will result in some near freezing temperatures over

interior sections of the Nature Coast by early Friday morning... with

lows falling into the lower and middle 40s across the remainder of

west central and southwest Florida.

In addition to the cold temperatures winds around 10 mph may support

some low wind chill values early Friday morning. Residents needing to

be outdoors overnight into early Friday morning should dress in layers

to protect themselves from the cold.

Although a long duration of freezing temperatures is not expected at

this time some damage to temperature sensitive plants will be possible

in the coldest location over the Nature Coast as well as interior sections

of west central Florida early Friday morning. Residents should plan

to cover or bring indoor any sensitive plants early this evening to

protect them from the cold. Pets should also be brought indoors as

well.

Stay tuned to NOAA Weather Radio or your local media for further

updates on the developing cold weather expected tonight and Friday.

&&

For additional weather information... check our website at

http://weather.Gov/tampabay

[spockvr6]

As of 115PM.......not much but cold green left in FL.

[spockvr6]

(gsn @ Jan. 25 2007,13:10)

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Larry,

Unfortunately the wunderground just dropped you another 2 degrees to a low of 36.

Oh my.....now I need to burn even more propane in the doghouse

LOL.

[spockvr6]

(gsn @ Jan. 25 2007,13:10)

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Larry,

Unfortunately the wunderground just dropped you another 2 degrees to a low of 36.

I just learned something about WU.

If I type in my zip (34689) I get a forecast of 37F.  If I type in Tarpon Springs, I get 36F and also a default station that is not near me (and I believe is in 34688, which is the NE corner of Pinellas).

The proper way to access the Tarpon Springs weather is by typing in 34689....as that way my weather station's data comes up

In any case, the WU forecasts are 90% of the time junk, so I dont give them much weight.  I watch NWS more closely as they hit it more than the others do.  For tonight, NWS and WU are pretty close (38 and 37F respectively).  So, maybe we have something here

Weather.com is still clinging to a 44F forecast which will likely prove too high.  They sometimes confuse 34689 with 33701

[spockvr6]

(gsn @ Jan. 25 2007,13:10)

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My question is why would they put out this advisory and not forecast freezing temperatures? ???

Probably due to wind chill values falling below a certain advisory threshold?

Bring on the NW wind!  

Ill take NW, or even N, wind anyday over dead calm.  Well...as long as the wind isnt too brisk  ???

[spockvr6]

Also....dewpoints falling like a rock over here now as the colder drier air slides in.

[tank]

This year, weather-dot-com has nailed it every time, with NWS forcasting at least 5 to 7 degrees F lower than what we end up getting.  I don't know if they're erring on the safe side or what.  I hope this trend continues.

I usually keep an eye on all the forcasts and prepare for the lowest (usually NOAA/NWS).

Disclamer!!  I'm not a big fan of weather-dot-com, it is just this year they've been the most accurate.

Gainesville tonight:

Weather-DOT-com Thurs-low = 35 F

Weather-DOT-com Fri-low = 36

Weather-DOT-com Mon-low = 33

NOAA/NWS-JAX Thurs-low = 30

NOAA/NWS-JAX Fri-low = 30

NOAA/NWS-JAX Mon-low = 28

Weatheruderground Thurs-low = 30

Weatheruderground Fri-low = 30

Weatheruderground Mon-low = "Upper twenties"

[ZoneTenNut]

(spockvr6 @ Jan. 25 2007,10:01)

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(redant @ Jan. 25 2007,09:56)

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"Rats.  Looks like we might have to battle winter for a bit this year after all."

I 100% blame you for that Larry.

Yeah....my dumb @ss "I know I am going to jinx us, but Ill say this anyway BS"......LOL.

It seems the universe does listen afterall ???

Larry,

I have to agree with Doug, I think you jinxed us. This sucks! Its 3:05PM and 55.8F and falling right now. Overcast, breezy, and drizzly. Thanks alot!  

There seems to be about that 4-5F difference in forecasting for us down here also, so I guess throw the dice for the lows.

[ZoneTenNut]

(spockvr6 @ Jan. 25 2007,13:55)

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Bring on the NW wind!  

Ill take NW, or even N, wind anyday over dead calm.  Well...as long as the wind isnt too brisk  ???

Forget that! Give me a NE, E, SE, S, or SW wind.  

[spockvr6]

Now all the warm air is gone.......pretty much the same temp in Miami as Jacksonville.  Yeah....like that will hold out tonight

[spockvr6]

(tank @ Jan. 25 2007,14:55)

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This year, weather-dot-com has nailed it every time, with NWS forcasting at least 5 to 7 degrees F lower than what we end up getting.  

I will be happy if the weather.com proves out here tonight

I suspect that the variances are based on exactly where one sits relative to the forecast point.  So, one has to look at all of the forecasts, and over time, see if a trend develops related to one's own temperatures and those that were forecast.

[spockvr6]

(ZoneTenNut @ Jan. 25 2007,15:34)

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Forget that! Give me a NE, E, SE, S, or SW wind.  

While any wind direction with an "S" in it will prove fine, I think if there has to be an N, NW sure sounds better to me

[gsn]

(spockvr6 @ Jan. 25 2007,13:52)

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The proper way to access the Tarpon Springs weather is by typing in 34689....as that way my weather station's data comes up

Weather.com is still clinging to a 44F forecast which will likely prove too high.  They sometimes confuse 34689 with 33701

Larry,

34689 is bookmarked!

One wouldn't want to confuse 34689 (Tarpon Springs)

with 33701(St Petersburg,which is really in south Florida isn't it?)  ::  

P.S.

I would reccomend the 150,000 BTU for the HOUSE! :laugh:

[galveston1602]

yep warped floridians at it again.....  

try 4 days straight of about 40 degrees for low and high temps....  not to mention ~2.5 inches of rain!

Larry, are your goldens and lipstick palms are going to be in the dog house with you tonight?

[ZoneTenNut]

(galveston1602 @ Jan. 25 2007,17:54)

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try 4 days straight of about 40 degrees for low and high temps....  not to mention ~2.5 inches of rain!

I'll pass on the 4 days of 40 degree temps. Brrrr! But what I wouldn't give for 2.5 inches of rain.  ???

[ZoneTenNut]

This is interesting. At 3:05PM here, it was 55.8F and falling, with a stiff breeze. I just got back from dinner and at 6:44PM it has gone up to 56.7F.  

[spockvr6]

(ZoneTenNut @ Jan. 25 2007,18:41)

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This is interesting. At 3:05PM here, it was 55.8F and falling, with a stiff breeze. I just got back from dinner and at 6:44PM it has gone up to 56.7F.  

Zone 10-

I see that all the time on my weather station logs.  Sometimes its due to dewpoint changes or wind shifts.

Other times....I have no idea at all why it happens!

[spockvr6]

(galveston1602 @ Jan. 25 2007,17:54)

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Larry, are your goldens and lipstick palms are going to be in the dog house with you tonight?

The Lipstick has been lounging poolside at my parents house for about a week.  The filtered sun through the pool enclosure screen will do it good (better than the deep shade of my back patio).

The Golden Malayans are riding it out in the unheated doghouse!

[ZoneTenNut]

It so cold here right now, even the gators want in.  :laugh:

[spockvr6]

Winds are seeming to die off here right now......this is usually not good for my location

Still hanging in there at 53F and some change at 830PM.

[ZoneTenNut]

(spockvr6 @ Jan. 25 2007,20:30)

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Winds are seeming to die off here right now......this is usually not good for my location

Still hanging in there at 53F and some change at 830PM.

We're about the same right now. 53.6F at 9:17PM and winds have died down considerably.

Hope that still air doesn't become a problem for you.

[spockvr6]

(ZoneTenNut @ Jan. 25 2007,21:24)

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(spockvr6 @ Jan. 25 2007,20:30)

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Winds are seeming to die off here right now......this is usually not good for my location

Still hanging in there at 53F and some change at 830PM.

We're about the same right now. 53.6F at 9:17PM and winds have died down considerably.

Hope that still air doesn't become a problem for you.

The temp has actually risen here in the past hour or two as the dewpoints have snuck up a little bit.

But, the dewpoint rise seems to be leveling off, and I have noticed this many times portends a forhtcoming temp drop.

However, winds have picked back up as well (which is usually good for my yard as I can steal some coastal heat).

Currently 54.3F at 943PM....well see what happens from now till bedtime (which will be soon for this old (but fairly young) coot.

[spockvr6]

(gsn @ Jan. 25 2007,17:35)

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One wouldn't want to confuse 34689 (Tarpon Springs)

with 33701(St Petersburg,which is really in south Florida isn't it?)  ::  

I really honestly dislike anyone who lives in that zipcode.

Jealousy can be an ugly ugly thing  

[spockvr6]

(gsn @ Jan. 25 2007,17:35)

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P.S.

I would reccomend the 150,000 BTU for the HOUSE! :laugh:

HAHAHAHHA.

If it were up to me, I wouldnt even have the heat on in the real house (not the dog one I may be in if this coming week turns out to be cold).

But, the heat has been on in my house all day today as the high barely got over 58F.

[SunnyFl]

(gsn @ Jan. 25 2007,17:35)

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(St Petersburg,which is really in south Florida isn't it?)  ::  

Yyyyyyyyessss!!!

I like to think of this as.....

Lauderdale North!

ummm, back to reality......

It was tenaciously hanging on to 55F at 9pm when I was coming home from work.  Don't want to know what it is now, but my lil albofarinosa cutie is spending the night INdoors.  

From the looks of it, Monday night could be worse.  could wreck our Zone11 winter ack.

[ZoneTenNut]

Going to have to give up the sandals and move to the shoes and socks today. A cold 48.4F with 73% humidity this morning.

[spockvr6]

Ended up at 41.2F as the bottom earlier this AM.  At 2AM, the temps were 54F....the winds shifted NE and the bottom fell right out.

[ZoneTenNut]

(spockvr6 @ Jan. 26 2007,08:14)

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Ended up at 41.2F as the bottom earlier this AM.  At 2AM, the temps were 54F....the winds shifted NE and the bottom fell right out.

You're still within your zone 11 year though. I think we bottomed out at 48.1F, at least that was what it was when I left the house at 6:30AM. Could've dropped a little lower, but not certain.

[spockvr6]

Lows Summary around Tampa Bay-

Larrys Jungle - Tarpon Springs - 41.2F

Sponge Docks - Tarpon Springs - USF Marine Station - 42.98F

Fred Howard Park - Tarpon Springs - USF Marine Station - 43.00F

Campbell Park - St. Petersburg - USF Marine Station - 46.04F

Balm FAWN - 35.95F

Brooksville FAWN - 35.77F

Dover FAWN - 34.70F

Albert Whitted AP (downtown St. Petersburg) - 48F

Clearwater AP - 46F

Tampa AP - 43F

Vandenberg AP - 39F

MacDill AFB - 42F

[BobbyinNY]

don't talk to me about winter....... I know what winter is all too well unfortunately..

[redant]

47 at my place this morning, no shortage of 45f in the area while driving to work. That's lower then any of the forecasted lows.

[tank]

34 F at my house and what NOAA reported at the airport.  Weatherdotcom was the closest again.  I hope their forcast for the next 10 days holds up.

Also, as far as getting adventurous and pushing zones, they just planted a coconut on the University of Florida campus.  About 6ft of trunk.  Unless this is some sort of genetically engineered "super" plant, I give it a year (this is generous, as it is probably dead already.  I'll check this weekend).

[SubTropicRay]

Tuesday morning looks chilly again.

[gsn]

43.7 here at my house.

44.6 at regional airport KTIX

45.0 Shuttle landing facility

For some reason the shuttle site rounds off it's temps. Surprised the shuttle site isn't even higher as it is on Merrit Island ,surrounded by the Atlantic and Indian River Lagoon. Guess water didn't help that much last night?

They seem to have missed it high yet again,but I guess that is better than missing it low?However if they miss it high they can miss it LOW also!

[gsn]

Ray,

I was just going to tell Larry he could sleep in the REAL house,until Monday night! :laugh:

I think Monday night is going to be a little colder than last night,hope I am WRONG!