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Jubaea, butia, hybrid?

richnorm

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Anyone see hybrid in this one? I have posted it before but it is growing really fast (way too fast for Jubaea in our climate) and is quite blue and getting more so. Any thoughts appreciated.

cheers

Richard

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Alberto Grand Master

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Was it grown from a Jubaea seed or bought as a Jubaea?

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Alberto Grand Master

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Was it grown from a Jubaea seed or bought as a Jubaea?

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

MattyB Grand Master

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I think that it's just too early to tell.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

richnorm Grand Master

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Was it grown from a Jubaea seed or bought as a Jubaea?

Hi Alberto, bought as a Ceroxylon! It had it's first leaf plus a bit of a spear but no seed attached. The whitish tinge was visible on the leaf underside which probably accounted for the outrageous mis-ID. I've had it for about three years which seems way too fast for Jubaea or Butia in my growing conditions. Another weird thing is it doesn't have a particularly vigorous root system. The other genus that springs to mind is Parajubaea and they certainly can grow this fast. I guess Matty is right, I may just have to be patient though I know there are some pretty keen eyes when it comes to these cocosoid palms which all look very similar to me at a young age.

cheers Richard

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It does not look like a Parajubaea seedling. It's in the Jubaea/Butia range.

Jason Dewees

Inner Sunset District

San Francisco, California

Sunset zone 17

USDA zone 10a

21 inches / 530mm annual rainfall, mostly October to April

Humidity averages 60 to 85 percent year-round.

Summer: 67F/55F | 19C/12C

Winter: 56F/44F | 13C/6C

40-year extremes: 96F/26F | 35.5C/-3.8C

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