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A look at 4 Hawaiian gardens (O'ahu and Kaua'i)


Hilo Jason

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The backdrop is just amazing...all of the palms look so healthy and robust too! The Hyphaene is killer...:drool: :drool: :drool:

Thanks for sharing!

:) Jonathan

Jonathan

Katy, TX (Zone 9a)

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No idea what these were, but they were quite the sight

Can someone ID these palms in the foreground? :drool:

Thanks!

:) Jonathan

Jonathan

Katy, TX (Zone 9a)

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Jason,

First off, now that I know your wife is just as crazy as you are about palms, then can we expect her to join you for your next south Florida palm trip? :D I hope so! You guys make a great team.

Your pictures were great. I recogonized alot of the same views from some of the gardens. Just incredible stuff, and the weather was good. Hopefully not much rain up at Lyons, it seems like it's always rainy up there.

Thanks so much!

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

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Fantastic Jason.. Virginia, The consumate perfect Ranch Hand adds a lot to the pictures while she is giving you info on their care and feeding.. :)

I think thats a pyriformis.. Harder to tell on Hawaii pics when not in person..

And for some reason that last D. lastelliana pic I for some reason think is a leptocheilios? dunno, just a feeling.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Oh, those photos are fantastic. I hope to make that same trip this summer. More please :rolleyes:

C from NC

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Bone dry summers, wet winters, 2-3 days ea. winter in low teens.

Siler City, NC

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Jason,

Thanks for all these really outstanding photos. Lyon and Ho'omaluhia are two of my absolute favorite gardens, and so very different from each other. It's been a few years since I was there, and clearly, it's time for another visit. The Lodoicea at Ho'omaluhia is just stunning! As are so many of the palms. Well, most of them actually! :) And Foster Botanic Garden is great as well - much easier to cover because of its smaller size, but still outstanding. The branching palm in #23 is their very famous Hyphaene thebaica. If they had no other plants at all, that palm ALL BY ITSELF would be worth a visit! :)

Again, thanks for this very enjoyable tour! :)

Bo-Göran

Bo - thanks for the ID on that branching palm. I was on sensory overload when I was at all those gardens and didn't keep up with all the names. It is quite the site to see! Any idea what that large dypsis is in post #17?

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Great pictures Jason

There is a big Chambeyronia lepidota at the Lyon arboretum did you by any chance see it ???

Troy

thanks Troy, I did not see the Chambeyronia Lepidota at Lyon, that just gives me one more reason to get back there soon!

Jason

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Jason, Fantastic shots . What an incredible backdrop to these gardens ,outrageous, Very 'Jurassic Park' . Ive NEVER seen such a colourful Arch purpuraea ( Mt Lewis Alexander) is this photoshopped? Thanks for posting, Love the location, a Must See when we visit Hawaii. :) Pete

Pete - that photo is not photoshopped at all, however I did need a flash in that section of the garden since it was in such heavy canopy. The flash really lit up the undersides of the leaves and the purple crownshaft. Definitely visit those gardens when you are in Hawaii. We spent hours there but I would have loved to have the entire day at each one!

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Jason,

First off, now that I know your wife is just as crazy as you are about palms, then can we expect her to join you for your next south Florida palm trip? :D I hope so! You guys make a great team.

Your pictures were great. I recogonized alot of the same views from some of the gardens. Just incredible stuff, and the weather was good. Hopefully not much rain up at Lyons, it seems like it's always rainy up there.

Thanks so much!

Jeff

Jeff - Virginia is a trooper when it comes to my palm addiction, but she definitely gets worn out fairly quickly. She was ready for the beach after those gardens, and I was just ready for more gardens. One of these days I will convince her to come to Florida with me again. she did join me 2 years ago but all day at Fairchild wore her out which is why she let me go on my own last fall when I visited you.

There was some rain at Lyon Arboretum, but not too much. Just enough to add to the experience.

Jason

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Fantastic Jason.. Virginia, The consumate perfect Ranch Hand adds a lot to the pictures while she is giving you info on their care and feeding.. :)

I think thats a pyriformis.. Harder to tell on Hawaii pics when not in person..

And for some reason that last D. lastelliana pic I for some reason think is a leptocheilios? dunno, just a feeling.

Thanks Bill!

Thanks for your thoughts on that Kentiopsis. And as far as that last D. Lastelliana pic, you might be right. Like I mentioned before, I tried to keep up on IDs but got overwhelmed from seeing palms I've never seen before, and then also seeing palms that I can grow, but look nothing like mine since they are so healthy and happy in Hawaii.

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Jason,

#17 - my guess is Dypsis prestoniana. And #3 in post #15 looks like Welfia regia. See also #42 above. #4 in post #15 strikes me as Pinanga coronata. And #2 in post #16 D. leptocheilos.

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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Bo-

Do you think maybe a "dark mealybug" or "hovomantsina" for #17? maybe even robusta?

Also, the Dypsis on #18 I find intriguing.. it looks like the "honkona habitat" form of Dypsis that Dennis Willoghby has... or Hovomantsina... (Its hard when those big Dypsis are in canopy... their look can change so much.)

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Wonderful to revisit the gardens on Oahu. It's been a few years for me. Was going to add my two cents with some IDs, but Bo got to them already. Awesome photos.

William

Hana, Maui

 

Land of the low lying heavens, the misty Uakea crowning the majestic Kauwiki.

Visit my palms here

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Bo-

Do you think maybe a "dark mealybug" or "hovomantsina" for #17? maybe even robusta?

Also, the Dypsis on #18 I find intriguing.. it looks like the "honkona habitat" form of Dypsis that Dennis Willoghby has... or Hovomantsina... (Its hard when those big Dypsis are in canopy... their look can change so much.)

Bill,

my guess was (and is) prestoniana because I know what prestonianas look like when they are that size. I don't know what the others that you mentioned may look like at a similar size.

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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Many thanks for this tour. Many of your photos are so good... they are better than most pics I saw in books or on the Internet before. The Hyphaene just blew my mind... But, in fact, the whole set of photos is "just like a dream".

Sebastian, garden on La Palma island, 370 m (1200 feet) above sea level / USDA Zone 11/12 ; Heat zone IV / V

Record High: 42°C (107F) / Record Low: 9°C (48°F). Rain: 600 mm (24 inches) per year with dry/wet seasons. Warm Season: July-November / Cool Season: December-June
Warmest month (August/September) average minimum temperature : 21°C (70°F) / Warmest month (August/September) average maximum temperature : 28°C (82°F)
Coldest month (February/March) average minimum temperature : 14,5°C (58°F) / Coldest month (February/March) average maximum temperature : 21°C (70°F)

Temperature of the sea : minimum of 20°C (68°F) in march, maximum of 25°C (77°F) in September/October.


 

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Thanks Jason, enjoyable journey through some fantastic gardens. I remember my first visit to Foster and Ho'omaluhia a few years back and I could hardly believe what I was seeing.

Have yet to make it Lyon, but it's on the list. Thanks man, great post.

Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

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Fantastic Jason.. Virginia, The consumate perfect Ranch Hand adds a lot to the pictures while she is giving you info on their care and feeding.. :)

I think thats a pyriformis.. Harder to tell on Hawaii pics when not in person..

And for some reason that last D. lastelliana pic I for some reason think is a leptocheilios? dunno, just a feeling.

Thanks Bill!

Thanks for your thoughts on that Kentiopsis. And as far as that last D. Lastelliana pic, you might be right. Like I mentioned before, I tried to keep up on IDs but got overwhelmed from seeing palms I've never seen before, and then also seeing palms that I can grow, but look nothing like mine since they are so healthy and happy in Hawaii.

I am pretty sure that is a Piersoniorum.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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Magnificent tour. Thank you for sharing such palm spectacle. My hubby, though supportive, we better go separate ways when dedicating ourselves to our addictions/hobbies. In that way, we can spend a whole day relishing in what we like, without pushing the other too far or hurrying ourselves concerned by the other half :winkie:

Patricia

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Bo-

Do you think maybe a "dark mealybug" or "hovomantsina" for #17? maybe even robusta?

Also, the Dypsis on #18 I find intriguing.. it looks like the "honkona habitat" form of Dypsis that Dennis Willoghby has... or Hovomantsina... (Its hard when those big Dypsis are in canopy... their look can change so much.)

Post 17 is 100% Ampasindavae

post 18 looks Very Tokoravina aka " Jurassic Pk"

Thanks again for this Stunning thread Jason,really look fwd to more pics. Pete :)

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There you go Pete! THATS what #17 looks like to me.. didn't look like prestoniana as the leaflets were way to regular, but I couldn't put my finger on it... Sorry Bo- I vote with Pete on this one.. :)

And I thought "cool" Pete and I are on the same page on the #18 one... then I reread my post and realised I skipped a few words! haha I was thinking Tokoravina, then I remembered some have said some of the Hawaiian hovomantsina "old ones' looked the same and I went right to that! :blush:

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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There are no words, none.

"If you need me, I'll be outside" -Randy Wiesner Palm Beach County, Florida Zone 10Bish

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There you go Pete! THATS what #17 looks like to me.. didn't look like prestoniana as the leaflets were way to regular, but I couldn't put my finger on it... Sorry Bo- I vote with Pete on this one.. :)

And I thought "cool" Pete and I are on the same page on the #18 one... then I reread my post and realised I skipped a few words! haha I was thinking Tokoravina, then I remembered some have said some of the Hawaiian hovomantsina "old ones' looked the same and I went right to that! :blush:

I am by no means certain, and when Pete says "100% ampasindavae" who am I to disagree!? :unsure: But the ampasindavae that I have grown have had a much more "orderly" look to the leaflets. The one in #17 seems to be slightly "disorganized", which is why I still believe prestoniana. (EDIT an hour later - I have taken a much closer look at some recent prestoniana photos and I am changing my mind! I CAN DO THAT! :lol: Prestoniana does seem to have much more recurved fronds and the leaflets do look different. So let's just call #17 an ampasindavae! :mrlooney: )

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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This section of the garden was one of my favorites:

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The taller skinny palms towards the front are Kentiopsis Oliviformis and then there are a few Metroxylon behind them

Is that a flowering Matroxylon in this pic from post 5 ?

The Palm Mahal

Hollywood Fla

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I think your first pic says it all. :drool:

With a tin cup for a chalice

Fill it up with good red wine,

And I'm-a chewin' on a honeysuckle vine.

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Jason,

#17 - my guess is Dypsis prestoniana. And #3 in post #15 looks like Welfia regia. See also #42 above. #4 in post #15 strikes me as Pinanga coronata. And #2 in post #16 D. leptocheilos.

Bo-Göran

Bo - thanks for the help with those IDs

Jason

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This section of the garden was one of my favorites:

IMG_0935.jpg

The taller skinny palms towards the front are Kentiopsis Oliviformis and then there are a few Metroxylon behind them

Is that a flowering Matroxylon in this pic from post 5 ?

Yes, I believe that Metroxylon was flowering. I didn't really even catch that when I was there, but later when I was looking at the photos.

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Jason, Fantastic shots . What an incredible backdrop to these gardens ,outrageous, Very 'Jurassic Park' . Ive NEVER seen such a colourful Arch purpuraea ( Mt Lewis Alexander) is this photoshopped? Thanks for posting, Love the location, a Must See when we visit Hawaii. :) Pete

Pete - that photo is not photoshopped at all, however I did need a flash in that section of the garden since it was in such heavy canopy. The flash really lit up the undersides of the leaves and the purple crownshaft. Definitely visit those gardens when you are in Hawaii. We spent hours there but I would have loved to have the entire day at each one!

Thanks Jason, all it takes is a shot like that ( of the purpuraea) to reignite enthusiasim to plant more of these palms. ( recenly potted up 25 for a large group planting, its undoubtably the most exciting Archontophoenix )Now that ive looked again and again at your wonderful pics, it really stands out that palms which are colourful and grown in Hawaii, the colour is heightened. Must be all that rock along with year round abundant rainfall? Very stunning location, cant wait to see it one day. Pete :)

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Thanks for all the amazing pics Jason, so many great palms, I love those Neoveitchia's :)

Bruce

Innisfail - NQ AUS - 3600mm of rain a year average or around 144inches if you prefer - Temp Range 9c to 43c

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Fabulous, thanks for posting, I saw Pinanga when you said Areca ? and that purple crownshaft stand I think is another Pinanga, maybe speciosa etc. post #19.

Thanks again Jason..

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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Those "bromeliads on steroids" are Vriesea imperialis, from the Rio de Janeiro region of Brazil. They do nicely in Florida, but don't seem to reach that size. Mine are bothered by die-back of the leaf tips.

I don't think I'm going to show the photo of the extremely tall Bismarckia to my neighbor who planted one five or six years ago. It's already completely filled up the back yard.

Fla. climate center: 100-119 days>85 F
USDA 1990 hardiness zone 9B
Current USDA hardiness zone 10a
4 km inland from Indian River; 27º N (equivalent to Brisbane)

Central Orlando's urban heat island may be warmer than us

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That was waaaayyyy cool. I loved the tour. I can't wait to one day visit the islands myself. My favorites were the first cyphophoenix (actually both cyphophoenix) and the last picture of the dypsis lutensces. Oh yeah and the ones with the purple crownshaft!

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Jason, I didn't see anyone else comment on frame #19, that is actually the Chambeyronia lepidota. It very much looks like a Burretiokentia crownshaft. So

you did see it!!!! Many of the giant Albizia (not sure on spelling) trees have been removed, over the last few months. A huge crane was used to lower the "pieces", so

that the understory would not be harmed. The lepidota was mentioned in a newspaper article, about its rarity.

aloha

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great pics and great gardens

on post °2, I am not sure it is Euterpe oleracea fruiting:
Euterpe oleracea is a clumping species and fruits are black.

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Philippe

 

Jungle Paradise in Sri Lanka

 

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Came across these when googling for Kentopsis pictures. The size and scale of these palms is just downright stupid! Great pictures, Jason.

edit: "Stupid" as in "ridiculous." :P

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