Livistona sp Eungella

[Alberto]

Is the Livistona sp Eungella a different ecotype of L.australis or different species?
What are the main differences between regular L.australis and L. Eungella. Who cultivates both palms ?
Do they look different with same growing conditions like soil, shade etc?

[gyuseppe]

I have some of these,are small,

so far I do not see the difference with the livistona australis

regards

[peachy]

I have both species growing in my garden and I honestly cant tell the difference either, apart from the sp. eungella range, has been a much faster growing palm than australis.

Peachy

[Walter John]

Is the Livistona sp Eungella a different ecotype of L.australis or different species?

What are the main differences between regular L.australis and L. Eungella. Who cultivates both palms ?

Do they look different with same growing conditions like soil, shade etc?

Hi Alberto, I'm sure it's an ecotype only. I have both but the Eungella which Michael Green graciously donated to the cause is only very small/young so I cannot comment yet on differences. Dare say the same requirements would prevail, this is a mobster of the palm world, tough but still thirsty..

[Alberto]

Thanks for the comments!

Are there folks from Oz with mature Eungellas???

[Tropicgardener]

Here are a couple of adult Livistona sp 'Eungella'. I took the photo last year in Eungella National Park.

I consider the Eungella species to be different from Livistona australis which starts to occur around 400km south of here, certainly juveniles are very similar but adults are different.

Edited June 28, 2012 by Tropicgardener

[Alberto]

Nice long petioles!

Is there any comercial source of seeds of this variety?

[KrisKupsch]

Theres a fellow up at Eungella that can send seed when ready-i will email him. It is Livistona australis and as is the Paluma (Bluewater) and Mt Elliot populations. I have the Eungella form growing since 1994 and they are now over 8m tall being quite quick and yes quicker than local australis. Tony Irvine kept telling me they were a different species based on leaf rhachis continuation features and degree of splitting plus some seed mesocarp features however compared to the species deliminations of other Livistonas the australis plants are very much within the acceptable range of a species that extends some 3000km over the east coast. I drive past Nowra last weekend and saw differences in australis from what im use to on the north coast of nsw. Their crowns were more compact and leaves slightly less broader-all to be expected in southern climates. A cultivated specimen of australis sourced from Bluewater is growing at Flecker BG Cairns. Its has a narrower trunk than what I would expect but still australis by the broad definition.

[Alberto]

Thanks! Very helpfull!!

BTW I see you live in Burringbar. I have bangalows growing at my place that came from Burringar!!! Somebody collected the seeds years ago suposing that the habitat would be frostier then regular bangalows habitat from more northern origin . I also have bangas from Urbenville.

[KrisKupsch]

Frostier than regular Bangalows - I dont think so ! It does frost on the cleared farm paddocks however Bangalows extend another 1200km north and south from here. Urbenville is much colder in winter than Burringbar.

[Alberto]

Theres a fellow up at Eungella that can send seed when ready-i will email him. It is Livistona australis and as is the Paluma (Bluewater) and Mt Elliot populations. I have the Eungella form growing since 1994 and they are now over 8m tall being quite quick and yes quicker than local australis..............

It would be very nice if you could contact this fellow at Eungella.

I can pay him or you for the post /seeds or maybe swap seeds............