Years growth on sabal

[Stevetoad]

I put this sabal domingensis or bermudana (I'm not sure which one it is. It had 2 tags) in about 14 months ago. I can't believe how much it has grown and changed. It was a semi strap leaf looking lime green palm, now every new leaf is getting wider and wider. It's also now a nice super dark green. I love this palm!

[Palmlover]

Steve, looks like it's going to a beast! Must love that spot.

[Phoenikakias]

It would be very interesting to see once its inflorescences. It happens that I have a similiar palm bought also as dominguensis, but when it started to flower it proved to be a minor or a hybrid between minor and dominguensis.

[Walt]

Your sabal appears to be growing nicely and the color looks great. Whatever you are doing, just keep doing it.

Back in June of 2003 (during a meeting of the Central Palm and Cycad Society at my place) somebody gave all the attendees a small 1-2 strap leaved palm seedling. I recall whomever gave it to me that he said it was Sabal umbraculifera. I don't think that is a recognized name any longer, and that my palm is probably a Sabal domingensis or Sabal causiarum. In any event, it has been a very slow grower. It's never been hurt by cold or frost since it's been in the ground, probably 5-6 years now.

I was given one single and one double Sabal domingensis by a member of this forum a few years ago. Both of these palms seem to be growing faster than the one I got over nine years ago, shown below. While they aren't as big yet, they seem to be growing faster, and I expect them to surpass the original one in a couple of years.

Above photo: I think it's a Sabal domingensis. If not, probably Sabal causiarum. I have it planted in a shady spot, probably too much shade.

[palmkasper]

That's a good looking Sabal you have. If I understand well; 'the sabal Bermudana is one of the fast growers of the sabal species'.

I hope so, because I have some Sabal Bermudana seeds disseminated in cans and hope they coming up at the end of this summer so I can let them grow by the heather in wintertime. Holland can be cold that time of year. And finaly I hope they be just as nice like the Sabal palmpicture.

Maybe there is someone a palmexpert who can tell what kind of Sabal species you have. I ám curious.. .

gr, kasper.

[Hilo Jason]

Looking great Steve!

[Walt]

On the subject of sabal palm growth, I've been tracking a Sabal palmetto volunteer for the past nine years that started coming up next to the parent palm. Sabal palmetto is supposed to be a slow growing species, but IMO this one is growing (relative to palm species) at least moderately. It's probably due to extra minerals and irrigation it's getting indirectly from plantings my wife grows and feeds around it.

When the volunteer was smaller my wife wanted me to cut it down. I just couldn't bring myself to do it. She normally has her way around here -- except when it comes to my palms.

When

Above photo: I first noticed the volunteer Sabal palmetto starting to come up in 2003. The red arrow is pointing to the emeging juvenile frond segments.

Above photo: Fast foreward to 2012 and you can see how the Sabal palmetto volunteer has grown, so much that it's upper crown fronds are now growing into the lower fronds of the parent sabal. The red arrow indicates where the fronds from both palm contact each other .

Above photo: The volunteer Sabal palmetto now has at least 5 feet of unbooted trunk and has put out flower and seed the past two years. Both palms have some species of Hylocereus growing up their trunks.

[Stevetoad]

Nice Walt. looks like you have a really nice double now. i like it

[trachyman]

Whatever you're doing keep doing it. At that rate it might start trunking in like 3 years.

[Stevetoad]

Whatever you're doing keep doing it. At that rate it might start trunking in like 3 years.

thats my favorite thing about this palm. all i have to do is give it water. its even bigger now. the petioles are getting longer and longer. ill need to update the photo soon. its getting closer to the edge of the wall too so ill be bumping out that area soon.

[MattyB]

A Sababy bump?

[NApalm]

From what i understand some sabal's are native to cali hey? If not the rest of what im about to type is not going to make sense. But ive found my native palms to my local area (A. Cunninghamiana) just absolutely blitz it compared to others. No extra water, just the same manure in spring/autumn as the other palms and no protection from the sun. Im guessing people in se asia would say the same about pinangas or folks in new guinea about arecas. I guess theres nothing like native palms for local conditions (in terms of growth rates and ease).

[Stevetoad]

From what i understand some sabal's are native to cali hey? If not the rest of what im about to type is not going to make sense. But ive found my native palms to my local area (A. Cunninghamiana) just absolutely blitz it compared to others. No extra water, just the same manure in spring/autumn as the other palms and no protection from the sun. Im guessing people in se asia would say the same about pinangas or folks in new guinea about arecas. I guess theres nothing like native palms for local conditions (in terms of growth rates and ease).

Sabal isn't a Cali native. There is sabal riverside that is named after riverside California but its a hybrid of caribbean sp. (probably). The only California native palm is washingtonia filifera. would be cool to have more native palms though.

[Rafael]

Excelent looking sabal!

I have 3 causarium almost the same size, love them!

[Alicehunter2000]

Your palm looks alot like Ken Johnson's and soon to be my Sabal urseana...especially the coloration....Sabals look so much alike to me.

[Jimhardy]

Beautiful palm-what a jump in size and features

[ando.wsu]

Steve,

I have a Sabal Blackburniana, at least that was what was on the tag when i bought it. It is still smaller than yours, but it put out monster growth this summer. Seems to have the same look, bluish fronds and all. Looks like blackburniana is synonymous to domingensis maybe? At least that is what i read. Anyhow, bottom line is that is a nice looking tree!

attached is my 'sabal blackburniana' or what ever it is. i can't wait for it to get bigger one of these days.

[NApalm]

From what i understand some sabal's are native to cali hey? If not the rest of what im about to type is not going to make sense. But ive found my native palms to my local area (A. Cunninghamiana) just absolutely blitz it compared to others. No extra water, just the same manure in spring/autumn as the other palms and no protection from the sun. Im guessing people in se asia would say the same about pinangas or folks in new guinea about arecas. I guess theres nothing like native palms for local conditions (in terms of growth rates and ease).

Sabal isn't a Cali native. There is sabal riverside that is named after riverside California but its a hybrid of caribbean sp. (probably). The only California native palm is washingtonia filifera. would be cool to have more native palms though.

Hmm, a little bit of research would have saved myself some embarassment there but meh. Haha.

[Stevetoad]

I was outback today and my son was playing with the sabal I planted for him and though why not update this thread. So.....

[MattyB]

That thing is monster. What's that stuff all over the ground?

[Stevetoad]

That thing is monster. What's that stuff all over the ground?

Haha. Finally started spreading mulch up there. That's why it's only on the right

[Jubaea_James760]

Bump. How's your sabal sp. doing Stevetoad? Curious to see how massive it is 

[Stevetoad]

On 8/25/2018, 2:36:39, James760 said:

Bump. How's your sabal sp. doing Stevetoad? Curious to see how massive it is 

It’s gotten a little bigger. Same kid for scale. 

 

[PalmTreeDude]

49 minutes ago, Stevetoad said:

It’s gotten a little bigger. Same kid for scale. 

 

Wow... That really grew! 

[Jubaea_James760]

ahhhh! What the heck did you feed that thing!? Looks amazing   At first I didn't even see your son lol I live the before & after pics. Especially with the kids growing with them. Great memories to look back on. Btw did you ever find out which species it was?

[akaranus]

A monster

[Stevetoad]

6 hours ago, James760 said:

ahhhh! What the heck did you feed that thing!? Looks amazing   At first I didn't even see your son lol I live the before & after pics. Especially with the kids growing with them. Great memories to look back on. Btw did you ever find out which species it was?

I’m still not 100% sure. It hasn’t flowered yet but I’m pretty sure is causiarum.   The trunk is massive. 

[Jubaea_James760]

I agree Steve. The liguels are evidence as well. Thanks for the updated pic! 

[Moose]

I foresee it blooming in the next few years. May take a few blooming cycles before viable seed is forthcoming. Beautiful palm!

[_Keith]

8 to 10 years seems to be the magic time here before bloom.