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With a very warm end to Spring and a Hot start to Summer its "Good News" for the "Big Dypsis" they "Love it"

Heres 2 of our D canaliculata with my darling daughter Demi for scale, and a 1ft ruler at base.

The largest 1 is on the edge of a cut in road ( by bulldozer when dam was built) which is very very deep red soil..the other just opened its new frond today.

Please post your Canaliculatas. :) Pete

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Posted

Looks good Pete. What's your guess on what this palm really is?

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Posted

Looks good Pete. What's your guess on what this palm really is?

Len, i wish I could find the video Bill Beattie made called "A little more light" he made on 1 of his trips to Madagascar...anyway, on that vid, Bill

filmed a group of around 10 very very stocky Dypsis in the full blazing sun that had"dark green" fronds of 5 mtrs, the spear was a red / brown and they where only just starting to trunk. They looked exactly like my pics But "much more larger" as they where older, they also had ramenta which mine havnt got 'yet", but am certain they will..On the Vid Bill and friends vouched for Canaliculata as the leaf keyed out as such, for now Im staying with canaliculata..but...it is a Dypsis...only time will tell, and its not a Prestoniana. :)

Posted

Nice palm Pete! How long has that been in the ground? 3 years? They certainly crank along once established.

This is my sole surviving one...has been in the ground just over two years. Was planted out of an 8" pot and 2 ft tall. Now it is 7 ft tall...every leaf seems to be much larger than the previous. The other one was planted 3 years ago, in what turned out to be a lump of clay and didn't appreciate the lack of drainage...one wet summer and it rotted out.

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Nice colour and fur forming at the base. Look at the difference in petiole diameter...they are 3 leaves apart...

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Daryl

Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough!

Posted

Thanks Daryl, good luck with your sole survivor, its on its way now, they are certaily great growers.

Once I cleared away the Lantana from the roadsides to the dam ( 4 yrs ago) I started with 3 canaliculatas, my last bejoufa, and a R Robustitor to get me started with only Palms from Mad to be planted in this section.

The Canaliculata was of the same size of the small Dypsis in the pic ( 4 yrs ago), the small Dypsis at the front is growing at a very fast rate, its 1 of the "Big Dypsis " Hybrids ( accidental, but glad it is , coz its so fast :) )It came from Rich ( Rosebudfarm who got the seed from Jeff. All the small Dypsis incl the hybrid went in last year and they are loving being in full sun and very deep red soil.... The steep slope is crying out for lots of Dypsis to be planted here..

Kim, Id love to see a recent pic of your Canaliculata please..Thanks.. :) Pete

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Posted

Lovely palm. I don't even have a tiny one of these! Thanks for the photos as always.

Cindy Adair

Posted

Hi Pete, your D. canaliculata are looking superb. These are not slow palms, that's for sure. I should be able to post a pic soon. Haven't been in Hawaii for awhile and I miss my palms!

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Posted

Hmm.

Caniculatas in So-Cal?

Anyone?

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Posted

thats crazy cool!!!

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Posted

Cindy, wow finally have a palm inground you dont have :) find a few and enjoy seeing them take off.

Kim, I remember your posts of your incredibly fast rate of growth for your Canaliculata ( well, ALL your palms actually :) ) so I really look fwd to some pics when you get back to your 2nd home..Can Bo take a very short walk and take a pic or 2 ? :)

Good call Dave, Im keen to see "Everyones" canaliculatas. :)

Steve, for "Big Dypsis" these are 'Fast" and will be very "chunky". :)

Posted

We'll get you a pic soon, Pete. :)

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Posted

Here is mine growing in the ground for the last 5 seasons in SoCal. Not as fast as Prestoniana, but certainly quick for a large Dypsis. This plant had some weird thing going on to where after the newest leaf opens, the last oldest turns yellow and brown tips. The newest leaf is nice and dark green. The newest spear will open in a month or two and than that older leaf will start to decline. I can't figure this one out.

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Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Posted

Thanks for posting Len, its getting some size.

Len, the 4th pic of post 1 canaliculata used to behave like yours...until.... I fed it heavier with long term nutricote total and spread some dolomite and the problem has gone..As your Palm pic shows Len, the fronds and new spear would have a healthy appetite, the palm as a whole to maintain its vigor requires plenty of nutrients, all the best with it Len. Pete

Posted

Thanks for posting Len, its getting some size.

Len, the 4th pic of post 1 canaliculata used to behave like yours...until.... I fed it heavier with long term nutricote total and spread some dolomite and the problem has gone..As your Palm pic shows Len, the fronds and new spear would have a healthy appetite, the palm as a whole to maintain its vigor requires plenty of nutrients, all the best with it Len. Pete

Good to know Pete. I actually used Dolomitic Lime and fertilizer spikes as an additional supplement this year. Hopefully with the newspear opening the frond before it stays green :)

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Posted

Here is my largest which unfortunately has gone through a funk this past year. You can see the newest 4 fronds have been severely necrotic. I've treated for fungal, bug, and micros, one of which has helped as the latest spear looks much better. Now I just need to figure out which was the original issue.

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My smaller one which hasn't had any issues so far.

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Posted

Here are some poor pics of mine from about 2 months ago.. now about 6' tall..

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And you can see the dark spear here..

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

Fantastic photos guys! Pete, two of your photos now debut, at the top of the page in Palmpedia, Ed

MOSQUITO LAGOON

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Posted

Fantastic photos guys! Pete, two of your photos now debut, at the top of the page in Palmpedia, Ed

Gee Ed, your a "Champion Contributor" to Palmpedia and Palmtalk, very passionate about it too, great stuff, cant wait to see a fresh pic of Kims, then she will be on top. :) Pete

Posted

As promised, here you go Pete. The palm is way taller than me, maybe 10 feet?

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Posted

Your palm looks beautiful Pete, as does all your stuff. Canuluculata does well in So Cal but dies not like full sun. I planted one right next to my prestoniana and it just fried in the sun. Since yours is so beautiful in the sun i assume it is a humidity problem in so cal.

Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

Posted

Thanks for the pic Kim, its certainly rocketing along. :)

Thanks Gary,glad they grow well in Cal, is the burnt problem with the leaf laying quite flat or does it burn the very upright leaf as well? I agree about humidity, when summer started dry and with very low humidity, I was very glad of the shadecloth, canopy trees and palms to shade the smaller new plantings.. Very very happy that rains are frequent now and the humidity is right up there..no more worries, all is safe now :) Pete

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Posted

Here are some shots of mine that has two growth points.

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You can see at the base the orangish coloration of the emerging twin spears.

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Here are the spears top side. The biggest one near my thumb. The overall height of this palm now exceeds 10 ft (3 meters). I can;t wait when this palm starts looking monster like yours Pete.

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I just finished mulching yesterday around this palm. I put the mulch on pretty heavy so it lasts a year. Over 93 inches of rain happened here this year. The mulch breaks down rather quickly. I put a ring of oak logs around the base to keep mulch the mulch back.

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

Posted

The first pic's of Pete's palm have what appear to be swollen leaf bases and that 'color' that Dypsis prestoniana have. I'm not so sure this is D. canaliculata. To me, it doesn't match up with the pictures that Daryl and Kim posted of theirs. Anybody else?

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Posted

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Jeff Searle" data-cid="555538" data-time="1356836114">The first pic's of Pete's palm have what appear to be swollen leaf bases and that 'color' that Dypsis prestoniana have. I'm not so sure this is D. canaliculata. To me, it doesn't match up with the pictures that Daryl and Kim posted of theirs. Anybody else?


Jeff, once Canaliculata gets a move on they certainly are swollen down below, Kims is not as swollen because of her fast growth...Once Daryls get more growth, ( its much smaller than the 2 I posted) it too will be very swollen with red tomemtum covering the new spear and back of rachis ... Mine was like Daryls 2 yrs ago....Till it took off and started to swell.... ALL my Canaliculatas are swollen, so is Lens.. heres 2 pics from 5 minutes ago for interest , one side showing more white. I havnt got any Prestonias of the size of my Cans , but do they get Red tomemtum covering the new spear ?.. Anyone ? Bill A, BS man , or Bo since yr online and youve grown
and got a good size Presty
..I didnt see yr post Moose..Great its doing really well for your next new spears will be covered in red tomemtum ?

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Posted

Yeah, I have to back you up on this one Pete. The most obvious difference between the prestonia and the canaliculata is the canaliculata has a dark, almost red tomentum on the emerging spear whereas the prestoniana is like a smooth green babys butt. :D

I'm sure there is some slight differences in our different enviroments and some variabilty in them... but my presto/big curley and canaliculata are different in that obvious respect. :)

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

Heres some pics of mine after yesterdays rain..

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted
Yeah, I have to back you up on this one Pete. The most obvious difference between the prestonia and the canaliculata is the canaliculata has a dark, almost red tomentum on the emerging spear whereas the prestoniana is like a smooth green babys butt. :D

I'm sure there is some slight differences in our different enviroments and some variabilty in them... but my presto/big curley and canaliculata are different in that obvious respect. :)

Thanks Bill, yours is on its way as below shows... heres 2 pics that show the Canaliculata changing its outfit on its spear. :) One pic shows the date which was 14 mnth ago when the Can got its 1st spear with 'light tomemtum", each new spear gets "thicker and thicker" tomentum as the latter pic shows. Pete :)

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Posted
Here are some shots of mine that has two growth points.

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You can see at the base the orangish coloration of the emerging twin spears.

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Here are the spears top side. The biggest one near my thumb. The overall height of this palm now exceeds 10 ft (3 meters). I can;t wait when this palm starts looking monster like yours Pete.

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I just finished mulching yesterday around this palm. I put the mulch on pretty heavy so it lasts a year. Over 93 inches of rain happened here this year. The mulch breaks down rather quickly. I put a ring of oak logs around the base to keep mulch the mulch back.

Got em all entered, how about some good photos showing the whole plant Ron, thanks, Ed

MOSQUITO LAGOON

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Posted
Here are some shots of mine that has two growth points.

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You can see at the base the orangish coloration of the emerging twin spears.

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Here are the spears top side. The biggest one near my thumb. The overall height of this palm now exceeds 10 ft (3 meters). I can;t wait when this palm starts looking monster like yours Pete.

attachicon.gifDypsis canaliculata 1.JPG

I just finished mulching yesterday around this palm. I put the mulch on pretty heavy so it lasts a year. Over 93 inches of rain happened here this year. The mulch breaks down rather quickly. I put a ring of oak logs around the base to keep mulch the mulch back.

Got em all entered, how about some good photos showing the whole plant Ron, thanks, Ed

Ed - let me see if the lighting will be approprate for a full overall view tomorrow morning. ;)

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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