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Sabal "lisa" wanted

Stevetoad

By Stevetoad
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Stevetoad Grand Master

Stevetoad

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ill take any size. let me know if you got one... :)

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

paulgila Grand Master

paulgila

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i have one.wait,it could be a carpoxylon. :rolleyes:

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

OB Burt Community Regular

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I have some unknown Sabals. You can call them anything you want. First I've heard of a "Lisa"?Que es?

burt repine

Stevetoad Grand Master

Stevetoad

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i have one.wait,it could be a carpoxylon. :rolleyes:

:floor:

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Stevetoad Grand Master

Stevetoad

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I have some unknown Sabals. You can call them anything you want. First I've heard of a "Lisa"?Que es?

heres a photo i took off of google. i did not take the photo. AMAZING!!!

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"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

MattyB Grand Master

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Paul, you're lucky I am an avid reader of Palmtalk otherwise.....I don't know, you're just lucky.

I've never seen any S. 'lisa' for sale, but I wouldn't mind getting one....if you know what I mean..hint hint...eh, wink wink

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Moose Grand Master

Moose

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Sabal palmetto var. 'Lisa'. Many of the palmate leaflets are fused. Very stiff rigid palmate fronds. If you have ever seen a nice robust one, you would never believe it to be a variant of Sabal palmetto.

I have some unknown Sabals. You can call them anything you want. First I've heard of a "Lisa"?Que es?

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

Moose Grand Master

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Paul, you're lucky I am an avid reader of Palmtalk otherwise.....I don't know, you're just lucky.

I've never seen any S. 'lisa' for sale, but I wouldn't mind getting one....if you know what I mean..hint hint...eh, wink wink

They are hard to come by in Florida as well. Some specialty nurseries have a few but want big $ - they won't sell under 15 gallon size. I got mine from Meg. I doubt if there is a Florida nursery certified to ship to California that have S. palmetto 'Lisa'. Meg may have access to seed. You may want to PM her.

The % of the 'Lisa' trait being passed on is around 60%. So you gotta grow about 10. I had 12 - 5 turned out to be the true 'Lisa' variant.

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

Stevetoad Grand Master

Stevetoad

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thanks for the tip Moose. i had someone tell me they were growing some in califorina and would sell them. for the life of me i cant remember who it was. im hoping they will see this post.

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

palmislandRandy Grand Master

palmislandRandy

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I have some unknown Sabals. You can call them anything you want. First I've heard of a "Lisa"?Que es?

heres a photo i took off of google. i did not take the photo. AMAZING!!!

I took that photo at the Deerfield Beach Arboretum, in D. F. Bch, Florida. It planted right alongside a canal & sucks up water all day. The leaves are extremely stiff & feel like plastic. Here's a few more photos of it. If you can't find one locally PM me, I may know of one.

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"If you need me, I'll be outside" -Randy Wiesner Palm Beach County, Florida Zone 10Bish

palmislandRandy Grand Master

palmislandRandy

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I have some unknown Sabals. You can call them anything you want. First I've heard of a "Lisa"?Que es?

Sabal 'Lisa'

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Sabal lisa in Ft. Myers, Fl

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Up close shot of Sabal 'Lisa' showing leaf character, distinct from that of wild-type Sabal palmetto

Recently, a new mutant form of Sabal palmetto has been discovered in South West Florida, and named as a cultivarSabal palmetto 'Lisa'. The difference between the 'Lisa' and the wild-type Sabal palmetto is in the form of the leaf. The 'Lisa' has leaves that are costapalmate, acute, not pendulous, not filamentose, rigid, not strongly divided, cupped, and slightly undulating. This mutation of Sabal palmetto is beginning to be seen in the nursery trade, as it is just as hardy to cold, salt, drought, fire and wind as the wild type of the species, but looks different. Two specimens can be seen in Fort Myers, Florida at the intersection of Luckett Road and I-75, and many seed is collected and distributed from these specimens. Seeds fromSabal palmetto 'Lisa' have a 68% chance of becoming true to type, the other 32% develop as the wild type.[9]

I believe the few off Luckett Rd & I-75 in Fort Myers were moved to a safe location due to development

"If you need me, I'll be outside" -Randy Wiesner Palm Beach County, Florida Zone 10Bish

Stevetoad Grand Master

Stevetoad

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Great photos and info randy! Sorry I stole your photo off google. Ill take you up on your offer as well if I can't find one in California.

Thanks again

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

quaman58 Grand Master

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Steve, Randy (Inland palms) got 1 or 2 or 3 a couple years ago from Meg in Florida. Might be worth a pm to him.

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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Can I just have a "Lisa" instead? :bemused:

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Moose Grand Master

Moose

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Can I just have a "Lisa" instead? :bemused:

Do you deserve a "Lisa"? :rolleyes:

Have you pulled out all your weeds? :violin:

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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