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which hybrid will be the best coconut lookalike?

gilles06

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gilles06 Experienced

gilles06

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Hello nuts,

Since we started to find on the market some butiagrus, i fall in love with butinae hybrids, for me it was 20 years ago...

And now some "new" hybrids like jubaeax syagrus or butiax jubaea, butiaxparajubaea etc... are available.

Then I am wondering which one will be the perfect cococnu lookalike?

Maybe it would be lytocarium x parajubaea coccoides? A trunk not too fat and perfect parajubea cocoides leaves? Does it exist?

What do you think?

Salut :winkie:

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lowest t° 2007/2008 : 32F

lowest t° 2006/2007 : 35F

lowest t° 2005/2006 : 27F

lowest t° 2004/2005 : 25F

Historical lowest t° 1985 : 18F

Pedro 65 Grand Master

Pedro 65

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Salut, this isnt a hybrid , but Beccariophoenix madagascariensis very much resembles a Cocounut Palm, the windows form more so but probably too cold your location. Just a thought. Pete :)

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gilles06 Experienced

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Salut, this isnt a hybrid , but Beccariophoenix madagascariensis very much resembles a Cocounut Palm, the windows form more so but probably too cold your location. Just a thought. Pete :)

Hi Pedro,

You're right, beccariophoenix will be a good candidate for me. I just tried B. Alfredii this spring so time will say...

But i am still interested by butinae hybrids, especially those which don't exist yet!

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elevation 328 feet

distance from mediteranean sea 1,1 mile

lowest t° 2009/2010 : 27F

lowest t° 2008/2009 : 33F

lowest t° 2007/2008 : 32F

lowest t° 2006/2007 : 35F

lowest t° 2005/2006 : 27F

lowest t° 2004/2005 : 25F

Historical lowest t° 1985 : 18F

Mark Heath Veteran

Mark Heath

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Hello Gilles,

I plan on crossing my BXP w/ Queen pollen when it starts producing inflorescences. I will let you know how that comes about. But i figure that should be a coconut look-a-like just like the other hybrids.

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Jeff Searle

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IMO, Beccariophoenix madagascariensis all the way.

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

gilles06 Experienced

gilles06

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Hello Gilles,

I plan on crossing my BXP w/ Queen pollen when it starts producing inflorescences. I will let you know how that comes about. But i figure that should be a coconut look-a-like just like the other hybrids.

Hi Mark,

I am happy to read you still make new hybrids! (BxP)xS will be something great for sure!

Do you have any Lytocarium?

Salut :winkie: .

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elevation 328 feet

distance from mediteranean sea 1,1 mile

lowest t° 2009/2010 : 27F

lowest t° 2008/2009 : 33F

lowest t° 2007/2008 : 32F

lowest t° 2006/2007 : 35F

lowest t° 2005/2006 : 27F

lowest t° 2004/2005 : 25F

Historical lowest t° 1985 : 18F

sergiskan Rising Star

sergiskan

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Hello nuts, i fall in love with butinae hybrids...

Salut :winkie:

hello Gilles.

...me too... :yay:

best regards.

gilles06 Experienced

gilles06

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Hello nuts, i fall in love with butinae hybrids...

Salut :winkie:

hello Gilles.

...me too... :yay:

best regards.

Hola Sergis,

Me encanta leerte.

Saludos. :winkie:

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elevation 328 feet

distance from mediteranean sea 1,1 mile

lowest t° 2009/2010 : 27F

lowest t° 2008/2009 : 33F

lowest t° 2007/2008 : 32F

lowest t° 2006/2007 : 35F

lowest t° 2005/2006 : 27F

lowest t° 2004/2005 : 25F

Historical lowest t° 1985 : 18F

sergiskan Rising Star

sergiskan

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Hello nuts, i fall in love with butinae hybrids...

Salut :winkie:

hello Gilles.

...me too... :yay:

best regards.

Hola Sergis,

Me encanta leerte.

Saludos. :winkie:

hola Gilles.

hello Gilles.

el placer es mio. :rolleyes:

the pleasure is mine :rolleyes:

un saludo.

best regards.

I do not know speak French..., sorry. :winkie:

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Brian Bruning Community Regular

Brian Bruning

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Has anyone tried to cross a true Coconut with anything else? How many times? It may require chemical or lab intervention. I'd love to see a Parajubea x Cocos cross. It should be cool tolerant and tolerate perhaps a few degrees of frost.

Brian Bruning

ErikSJI Veteran

ErikSJI

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Butia X Cocos N. Pollinated by Mark Lynn. Some say it is pure Butia. It is around 5 years old. Still no armament. I pollinated a butia with coconut pollen about a month ago and it is still holding. I just received some more pollen and will be trying another tree.

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JasonD Mentor

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One defining quality of coconuts is the lean, rarely matched by any other cocosoid palm. Jubaeopsis and caespitose Syagrus spp. do this; so do some older Butia, but Parajubaea and queens grow generally quite vertically, as do most Jubaea specimens I've seen.

Jason Dewees

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San Francisco, California

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USDA zone 10a

21 inches / 530mm annual rainfall, mostly October to April

Humidity averages 60 to 85 percent year-round.

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_Keith Grand Master

_Keith

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If it doesn't have big nuts, what is the point?

In my post I sometimes express "my" opinion. Warning, it may differ from "your" opinion. If so, please do not feel insulted, just state your own if you wish. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or any other damages

Cedric Experienced

Cedric

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Jubaeopsis caffra looks remarkably like a coconut in every way. it has the all important hairy nuts too. in habit in the wild it looks just like a coconut, that nice thin leaning trunk and big mop of slightly twisted leaves hanging and long leaflets.

This one though is not frost tolerant at all but is quite happy in temps down to about 8 celsius in my experience if its humid enough.

Howea's look like mini coconuts as well.

Cerdic

Non omnis moriar (Horace)

Josh76 Proficient

Josh76

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I think I'm on the wrong kind of forum!!

:floor:

If it doesn't have big nuts, what is the point?

...it has the all important hairy nuts too....

Philpalm Enthusiast

Philpalm

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Anyone want coconuts? they are cutting down hundreds of them around here to use for lumber.

We have had a bad infestation of brown scale bugs that have killed many coconuts here in the province

of Batangas (Philippines). We have more than 200 on our property here but I refuse to cut them down, we have

saved many by cutting all the leaves back just leaving the middle shoot. It worked, the wet season is here and all growing

well. Just thought I would share this even though the topic is hybridization!

Regards to all.

Jerry.

Mauna Kea Cloudforest Grand Master

Mauna Kea Cloudforest

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Hello Gilles,

I plan on crossing my BXP w/ Queen pollen when it starts producing inflorescences. I will let you know how that comes about. But i figure that should be a coconut look-a-like just like the other hybrids.

Mark,

Call me, the cocoides is blooming, just noticed today. Do u still want the pollen?

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Dan in Vallejo Contributor

Dan in Vallejo

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Butia X Cocos N. Pollinated by Mark Lynn. Some say it is pure Butia. It is around 5 years old. Still no armament. I pollinated a butia with coconut pollen about a month ago and it is still holding. I just received some more pollen and will be trying another tree.

That's awesome. Don't let anyone discourage you from trying. I haven't seen a whole lot of butias but that sure looks different than any of the ones I've ever seen

Phoenikakias Grand Master

Phoenikakias

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Butia X Cocos N. Pollinated by Mark Lynn. Some say it is pure Butia. It is around 5 years old. Still no armament. I pollinated a butia with coconut pollen about a month ago and it is still holding. I just received some more pollen and will be trying another tree.

Erik what do you mean by 'it is still holding'? I suppose it means that pollen still remains stuck on inflorescence, but how much significant is this?

Zeeth Grand Master

Zeeth

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Butia X Cocos N. Pollinated by Mark Lynn. Some say it is pure Butia. It is around 5 years old. Still no armament. I pollinated a butia with coconut pollen about a month ago and it is still holding. I just received some more pollen and will be trying another tree.

Erik what do you mean by 'it is still holding'? I suppose it means that pollen still remains stuck on inflorescence, but how much significant is this?

He means that the seeds that he pollinated haven't aborted, which would be the case if the fertilization failed.

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

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Tropicdoc Veteran

Tropicdoc

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Interesting that the butia x parajub looks nicer than the butia x cocos.

Moose Grand Master

Moose

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Has anyone tried to cross a true Coconut with anything else? How many times? It may require chemical or lab intervention. I'd love to see a Parajubea x Cocos cross. It should be cool tolerant and tolerate perhaps a few degrees of frost.

? :)

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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