11 months growth of parajubaea microcarpa.

[Stevetoad]

I didn't realize how big this thing is starting to get until I went through my photos. The first photo was taken on feb. 26 2012 and the next one was taken today jan 30 2013

I don't know what's up with the king in the background (left). As you can see it went through some funk and hasn't recovered. I think it's going to get the axe.

[Jastin]

I didn't realize how big this thing is starting to get until I went through my photos. The first photo was taken on feb. 26 2012 and the next one was taken today jan 30 2013

Are you talking about Vance?

[PANGEA EXPRESS]

great growth! what were the coldest temps it saw these past few weeks?

[Stevetoad]

I didn't realize how big this thing is starting to get until I went through my photos. The first photo was taken on feb. 26 2012 and the next one was taken today jan 30 2013

Are you talking about Vance?

He's growing like a weed too

[Stevetoad]

great growth! what were the coldest temps it saw these past few weeks?

It saw a low of 26f. With 3 nights of freezing temps for 8 hours. No canopy no protection. Parajubaea don't care!

[MattyB]

[Stevetoad]

Hahaha! Ill give you credit Matt. When you get an idea in your head you follow through.

[nkbish]

Very nice, I think its time for me to get one (the palm of course).

[Firepalm]

Looks good. Do your leaves start opening before the spikes fully emerge? I have two of the standard torallyi and they are always pushing new spikes that open early.

[MattyB]

Hahaha! Ill give you credit Matt. When you get an idea in your head you follow through.

I think that's the nicest manner ever, in which someone has called me "obsessive".

[Stevetoad]

Looks good. Do your leaves start opening before the spikes fully emerge? I have two of the standard torallyi and they are always pushing new spikes that open early.

Yes. Parajubaea leaves open as they emerge. I have tor tor out front that grows steady but this one is really moving. One cool thing about this one is that it hangs onto a windows look for a while. You can still see a bit of what I'm talking about on the tips of the newest leaves.

[DoomsDave]

All the parajubes are great here in the land of La La. Or in Sadism.

[Tassie_Troy1971]

Very nice Steve .

I have one of these down here in chilly Tas !

[palmsnbananas]

Lets see what this Microcarpa looks like now!

[Josh-O]

pic's--pic's pic's we want more pics..lol

[Stevetoad]

I'll update tomorrow it's gotten a little bigger 

[Sanips]

Cool. I'm very interested in this palm and your experience could help me in the future . I've some seeds but I'm still looking for a suitable way to germinate them 

[Stevetoad]

I had to use a beer for scale because my son is with his grand parents. So I'm still not 100% on what this one is. It seems like microcarpa and was labeled that way too. She's been gaining some girth and is now going vertical so I don't think it will get the massive trunk like tor tor but I could be wrong. Super easy grower for me. No probs with 26f and frost and grows all summer when it's 100f and dry. 

[Hammer]

Looks really good Steve.  When is the next tour of your place?

[Phoenikakias]

Nice substitute for the miserable Archo, what is it? Good growth for the tvm, I do not dare imagine such growth rate for mine! After the end of every summer mine wobles a bit, while it has been entering it firmlier anchored in the ground. IMO this a clear sign that summer is a stressing season for it and I wonder further whether Santee is generally cooler during summer or it has only cooler summer nights, which can make such a tremendous difference.

[DoomsDave]

I had to use a beer for scale because my son is with his grand parents. So I'm still not 100% on what this one is. It seems like microcarpa and was labeled that way too. She's been gaining some girth and is now going vertical so I don't think it will get the massive trunk like tor tor but I could be wrong. Super easy grower for me. No probs with 26f and frost and grows all summer when it's 100f and dry. 

Hmm. Looking good!

Looks like it might be something other than macrocarpa. Consult the keys!

I have a macro I got from Jungle Music and it's a lot skinnier than your specimen, though it's mixed in with other palms.

Come visit La Habra and see a for-real tor tor that dwarfs everything.

[DoomsDave]

Nice substitute for the miserable Archo, what is it? Good growth for the tvm, I do not dare imagine such growth rate for mine! After the end of every summer mine wobles a bit, while it has been entering it firmlier anchored in the ground. IMO this a clear sign that summer is a stressing season for it and I wonder further whether Santee is generally cooler during summer or it has only cooler summer nights, which can make such a tremendous difference.

Konstantinos, are you anywhere near the ocean?

I would think that all the Parajubes would be great for Greece, since they're native to the high Andes and can take some cold, and a bit of dry.

Tvms aren't anywhere near as fast as tts or as large. How does sunkha do for you?

[Stevetoad]

Nice substitute for the miserable Archo, what is it? Good growth for the tvm, I do not dare imagine such growth rate for mine! After the end of every summer mine wobles a bit, while it has been entering it firmlier anchored in the ground. IMO this a clear sign that summer is a stressing season for it and I wonder further whether Santee is generally cooler during summer or it has only cooler summer nights, which can make such a tremendous difference.

the large fan palm to the left is the little fan Palm in the old photo. It's a livistona saribus. I took out the king and put in a little Dypsis ambositre there. 

[Stevetoad]

I had to use a beer for scale because my son is with his grand parents. So I'm still not 100% on what this one is. It seems like microcarpa and was labeled that way too. She's been gaining some girth and is now going vertical so I don't think it will get the massive trunk like tor tor but I could be wrong. Super easy grower for me. No probs with 26f and frost and grows all summer when it's 100f and dry. 

 

Hmm. Looking good!

Looks like it might be something other than macrocarpa. Consult the keys!

I have a macro I got from Jungle Music and it's a lot skinnier than your specimen, though it's mixed in with other palms.

Come visit La Habra and see a for-real tor tor that dwarfs everything.

I was thinking it might be a sunkha. I do need to get up to your place soon. 

[Phoenikakias]

David, I mean that my climate during summer is warmer than it should, for all Parajubaea to feel comfortable. I grow tvt and sunkha from seed on and tvm bought as a juvenile. All three grow in semi shade and all three show after each summer some minor setback. The tvm namely wobles. The tvt and sunkha produce every summer only one leaf, which shows some regressive development compared to previous leaves. All are signs of setback due to excessive heat. I will post some pictures to make my arguments visble asap. Sunkha compared to tvt has the half speed of growth but it is a bit faster than tvt  during the coldest winter period. Below in the background you can see my tvm (I was actually aiming at the seedling but I captured also the tvm).

[DoomsDave]

Konstantinos:

How hot do you get? I'll bet not a lot hotter than me.

All my parajubes are in full sun; they get wimpy in the shade.

[Josh-O]

Dang Steve,

 

That Parajubea is really picking up speed. you have done a great job growing that palm!!

 

Bravo!! 

[Danilopez89]

David, I mean that my climate during summer is warmer than it should, for all Parajubaea to feel comfortable. I grow tvt and sunkha from seed on and tvm bought as a juvenile. All three grow in semi shade and all three show after each summer some minor setback. The tvm namely wobles. The tvt and sunkha produce every summer only one leaf, which shows some regressive development compared to previous leaves. All are signs of setback due to excessive heat. I will post some pictures to make my arguments visble asap. Sunkha compared to tvt has the half speed of growth but it is a bit faster than tvt  during the coldest winter period. Below in the background you can see my tvm (I was actually aiming at the seedling but I captured also the tvm).

I have one P sunkha and it didn't move for 3 to 4 months during the heat. Now that we have had 1 or 2 week of cooler nights the middle spear has moved up about an inch. It was hard to keep it alive here. Had to move it a few times because it would get sunburn. And hated being wet. It's like the palm went to sleep for the summer.

[Josh-O]

David, I mean that my climate during summer is warmer than it should, for all Parajubaea to feel comfortable. I grow tvt and sunkha from seed on and tvm bought as a juvenile. All three grow in semi shade and all three show after each summer some minor setback. The tvm namely wobles. The tvt and sunkha produce every summer only one leaf, which shows some regressive development compared to previous leaves. All are signs of setback due to excessive heat. I will post some pictures to make my arguments visble asap. Sunkha compared to tvt has the half speed of growth but it is a bit faster than tvt  during the coldest winter period. Below in the background you can see my tvm (I was actually aiming at the seedling but I captured also the tvm).

I have one P sunkha and it didn't move for 3 to 4 months during the heat. Now that we have had 1 or 2 week of cooler nights the middle spear has moved up about an inch. It was hard to keep it alive here. Had to move it a few times because it would get sunburn. And hated being wet. It's like the palm went to sleep for the summer.

Daniel,

I have 15 gals 8' tall for 100.00 ea full sun grown. Why not get a HUGE head start with this palm?

let me know if you are interested?

[Josh-O]

here is a picture...these pic's are 3 yrs old. they are double the size now.

 

only 100.00

 

 

[Danilopez89]

David, I mean that my climate during summer is warmer than it should, for all Parajubaea to feel comfortable. I grow tvt and sunkha from seed on and tvm bought as a juvenile. All three grow in semi shade and all three show after each summer some minor setback. The tvm namely wobles. The tvt and sunkha produce every summer only one leaf, which shows some regressive development compared to previous leaves. All are signs of setback due to excessive heat. I will post some pictures to make my arguments visble asap. Sunkha compared to tvt has the half speed of growth but it is a bit faster than tvt  during the coldest winter period. Below in the background you can see my tvm (I was actually aiming at the seedling but I captured also the tvm).

I have one P sunkha and it didn't move for 3 to 4 months during the heat. Now that we have had 1 or 2 week of cooler nights the middle spear has moved up about an inch. It was hard to keep it alive here. Had to move it a few times because it would get sunburn. And hated being wet. It's like the palm went to sleep for the summer.

Daniel,

I have 15 gals 8' tall for 100.00 ea full sun grown. Why not get a HUGE head start with this palm?

let me know if you are interested?

Here's the one im talking about Josh. 

It was doing great when I bought it in early spring. One of the fastest mover at the time but once the nights didn't cool off anymore it stalled. It got sunburn so I had to move it somewhere where it would only get morning light. Even that burned it a bit since our mornings would sometimes reach 110*F or more. And I also had to watch it closely because it didn't like too much water during the heat. I would wait until the top inch of soil was dry.

[Stevetoad]

David, I mean that my climate during summer is warmer than it should, for all Parajubaea to feel comfortable. I grow tvt and sunkha from seed on and tvm bought as a juvenile. All three grow in semi shade and all three show after each summer some minor setback. The tvm namely wobles. The tvt and sunkha produce every summer only one leaf, which shows some regressive development compared to previous leaves. All are signs of setback due to excessive heat. I will post some pictures to make my arguments visble asap. Sunkha compared to tvt has the half speed of growth but it is a bit faster than tvt  during the coldest winter period. Below in the background you can see my tvm (I was actually aiming at the seedling but I captured also the tvm).

I have one P sunkha and it didn't move for 3 to 4 months during the heat. Now that we have had 1 or 2 week of cooler nights the middle spear has moved up about an inch. It was hard to keep it alive here. Had to move it a few times because it would get sunburn. And hated being wet. It's like the palm went to sleep for the summer.

Daniel,

I have 15 gals 8' tall for 100.00 ea full sun grown. Why not get a HUGE head start with this palm?

let me know if you are interested?

Here's the one im talking about Josh. 

It was doing great when I bought it in early spring. One of the fastest mover at the time but once the nights didn't cool off anymore it stalled. It got sunburn so I had to move it somewhere where it would only get morning light. Even that burned it a bit since our mornings would sometimes reach 110*F or more. And I also had to watch it closely because it didn't like too much water during the heat. I would wait until the top inch of soil was dry.

that thing is MASSIVE!!! It makes the cars stuck in traffic look like toys. 

[Danilopez89]

Lol! 

That's awesome Steve. It kinda does look that way...

Reminds me of some pics I came across on a Spanish palm and garden forum a few weeks ago. They showed some old parajubeas on a city street that were super tall. I had no idea they'd grow so tall.

[Josh-O]

[Phoenikakias]

Just for the records; my tvm... Besides here are two pictures of two leaves from my small tvt. First leaf was produced before summer and second leaf during summer. The setback is obvious.

[Moose]

On 10/6/2015, 8:59:58, Stevetoad said:

I had to use a beer for scale because my son is with his grand parents. So I'm still not 100% on what this one is. It seems like microcarpa and was labeled that way too. She's been gaining some girth and is now going vertical so I don't think it will get the massive trunk like tor tor but I could be wrong. Super easy grower for me. No probs with 26f and frost and grows all summer when it's 100f and dry. 

Thanks for the updated photo Steve. That palm is accelerating. Looks like a 300 lb gorilla wanting to rival the one in the Garden of Doom. 

[Aloha Palms]

@Stevetoaddo you have an update on this? I have one and would love to see the progress