IPAC Club House, meet here for fun and to think out loud!

[Ken Johnson]

Ok here it is with the flash. I uploaded a bunch of pictures I took with Conrad in them for scale. The first one is me! That is a Florida Stone Crab! While they are uploading I am typing this. The first one is almost done. They are big pictures I think so I guess it will take some time.

Oh no the first photo is 3.95 MB, whatever that means but I know its a size thing and I will lrun out of room "cause I see I can only upload 8.1 MB. I guess I will have some figuring out to do. Can we upload bigger sizes soon Dean? I know I have one camer that can shoot huge pictures. Sometimes when blown up here the detail is fabulous!

Ya. It looks like these pictures are WAY to big to make the flash loader a better option. I can see with small pictures but I will loose the clarity and when shooting palm flowers, for example, its nice to have huge files.

I do know that I can adjust my camera to shoot less pixels and then shoot a ton of pics and use THEM to post here but I also want my big files too so I'm stuck with the big files most of the time.

Well here are two large photos. That's all I could fit. I did spend a fair amout of time working on this. I wish I could do bigger pictures faster Gennie.

[PALM MOD]

To answer a few of the questions

Large files are unnecessary, time consuming, and inefficient both with bandwidth and disk space. Not only do they eat up valuable space on the server, they also eat up space on the backup server. The software developers have refrained from adding software that will resize "on-the-fly" while uploading for three reasons. 1) The costs involved with licensing such software, or developing and integrating their own that would adequately analyze and preserve quality. 2) The "on demand" conversion and compression utilizes a lot of server RAM and CPU resources 3) and today it is just too quick and easy to re-size on your own, to your own specs and quality.

It would be nice if the Forum software provided the option of on-the-fly resizing, and we could afford the additional RAM and CPU - but at this time it does not. The solution is one I have mentioned on several occasions before. It is extremely fast and east to resize your own photos.

This is what I do. When I wish to upload photos to PT I select them (on a PC I think that means Alt-click or something like that) Clicking on ten photos takes about ten seconds. Once my photos are clicked on and selected I drag them all to my batch re-sizer that has a pre-set for PT resizing. That's it --- DONE!!! - they are all resized to the optimum size, and they are all in one folder I designated as PT Uploads. Ten photos - ten seconds. 20 photos - 20 seconds.

Then when I post I simply use the Flash Uploader. I browse to my PT upload folder, and again Alt-click the ones I wish to upload and press upload. And they upload in a fraction of the time full size pics would take. I am done with posting and uploading much faster than using full size pics because my pics would upload 10 times faster. So I have never understood this consternation with resizing and uploading. Once you have figured it out, resizing 20 pics doesn't really take any more time than resizing one. And resizing only requires a simple one time drag and drop - 1 or 50 photos.

Ken - your one 3.95 MB photo takes up as much space as 10 of my resized photos - what a waste of time, space, bandwidth, and money. And the quality isn't even realized because - if you notice - the photos that you have uploaded and displayed are only 100- 200 KB anyway - or 1/20th the size of your upload. The software displays a resized version of your pic while still retaining the full sized file. My resized photos, because I have control over how I resize them, are actually displayed in better quality than your wasteful Hi-Res photo, and save the IPS a ton of storage space (money).

Now there are many caveats, and before someone proclaims my points are not totally accurate let me state that I know that. But for our purposes, and for the purposes of this discussion they will suffice. The bottom line is that resizing locally to around 400-500KB with resolutions of 1024-1256 px (width) is not only the best way, but also the fastest. But you will have to get a batch re-sizer, and you will have to expend a little time and mental energy to set things up. But after you do so, you will wonder why you didn't do it sooner. There have been suggestions for re-sizing software for PCs in previous topics. I use one called EasyBatchPhoto for my Mac.

It should be noted that 99% of on-line forums do not post as many photos as we do. Therefore, quality fast efficient "on-the-fly" photo uploading and re-sizing is not a priority function. If there is another forum out there that uses as many photos as we do, and allows files as large as we do, I would like to know about it. Perhaps they have devised a solution we could utilize.

[Ken Johnson]

Ya see Dean? I'm still learning! Thank you so much for the knowledge. I used to re size a lot of my photos to a small size and store them for later use in emails and such but sometimes I post direct to PT without resizing. Sure it takes a little time to re size but from the looks of it LOTS of our members are doing it too.

[PALM MOD]

Ya see Dean? I'm still learning! Thank you so much for the knowledge. I used to re size a lot of my photos to a small size and store them for later use in emails and such but sometimes I post direct to PT without resizing. Sure it takes a little time to re size but from the looks of it LOTS of our members are doing it too.

Really Ken - it takes only seconds.

I take all my full size originals from a new card and store them on an external hard drive. But before I store them there I drag and drop them all to the Batch Resizer, and all of them are optimally resized to my own specs for whatever purpose I would ever need them for online and are kept in this format on my computer. It literally takes less than 5 seconds, uses about 1/20th the space on my laptop, and are moved to a named folder of my choosing - all done automatically with one simple drag and drop.

You may notice my photos also have a Palmpedia watermark. That is because it is one of the many options I can also have done during the resizing - as I will take many of my photos and also upload them to Palmpedia.

Note that the processing might take five minutes or so for a thousand photos, but the actual time and effort on my part takes only seconds - and I move on to something else during the processing.

[ASHCVS]

On 2/10/2013 at 4:12 PM, PANGEA EXPRESS said:

So while trying to recruit more members on another palm forum i regularly visit, i came across some interesting points of view about Palmtalk. This may be kinda obvious but many people are discouraged to use this site due to its "tropical" focus. The members of this other forum are mostly "zone pushers" and might feel they dont belong in discussions here.

I think a good way to attract more of these cold palm people would be to create a separate section on Palmtalk perhaps for northern/southern zone pushers.

 

idk it seems there are so many of these cold palm people on sites like palmnorth, growingontheedge, gardenweb, etc that could be on Palmtalk.

 

just my non cents

Ten years later and now a paucity of “tropical” stuff. Your prediction came to fruition, fascinating how the forum continues to evolve. Thanks to everyone who posts!!