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Brahea super silver showing silver.

Stevetoad

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Al in Kona Grand Master

Al in Kona

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My B. 'Super Silver' gets minimal water as well. They are drought tolerant for sure, at least once established. Our soil is very porous with volcanic rock mixed in so it dries out rather fast. I have never fertilized it, only mulched. Does anybody have a pic of one growing in habitat so as to get a better idea how they look as mature plants?

Hawaii Island (Big Island), leeward coast, 19 degrees N. latitude, south Kona mauka at approx. 380m (1,250 ft.) and about 1.6 km (1-mile) upslope from ocean.

 

No record of a hurricane passing over this island (yet!).  

Summer maximum rainfall - variable averaging 900-1150mm (35-45") - Perfect drainage on black volcanic rocky soil.  

Nice sunsets!

Stevetoad Grand Master

Stevetoad

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Al, there's an awesome thread somewhere in Palmtalk with a bunch of habitat photos. If I remember right the area is very rocky and looks very dry.

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Al in Kona Grand Master

Al in Kona

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Thanks Steve for locating that thread on Brahea Super Silver and to see those photos in habitat again. An interesting read and yet questions arise about habitat distribution, possible subspecies, etc. Might it be allied to Brahea nitida (which it resembles)?

Despite the fact that it grows at very high relatively dry elevations (up to 6,000 ft.) in habitat, it grows well for me here in South Kona at an elevation of about 1,250 ft. I'm sure our humidity levels are much higher but we are both located at nearly the same latitude.

Hawaii Island (Big Island), leeward coast, 19 degrees N. latitude, south Kona mauka at approx. 380m (1,250 ft.) and about 1.6 km (1-mile) upslope from ocean.

 

No record of a hurricane passing over this island (yet!).  

Summer maximum rainfall - variable averaging 900-1150mm (35-45") - Perfect drainage on black volcanic rocky soil.  

Nice sunsets!

palmsnbananas Community Regular

palmsnbananas

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Whoa both of you guys pictures look awesome, mine has finally started to take off its in a pot and i'm about to plant it in a raised bed!

Explorer Community Regular

Explorer

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Mine are also showing a bit of silver. But those overhere grow in pots, they go inside in winter when it gets to cold. And at 52 degrees latitude North the lightintensity is much less then in places like Houston or Southern California. There planted out in sunny gardens with a long growing season they would grow much faster and getting that silver collor much earlier.

Alexander

Al in Kona Grand Master

Al in Kona

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Alexander, thanks for keeping us informed about your Brahea Super Silver in containers. You are one of the few who have visited them in habitat, something that I want to do one day. I checked out where Zapotitlan, Puebla is located on the map (just west of Tehuacan). I've traveled a lot in Mexico but never been to that immediate area.

Hawaii Island (Big Island), leeward coast, 19 degrees N. latitude, south Kona mauka at approx. 380m (1,250 ft.) and about 1.6 km (1-mile) upslope from ocean.

 

No record of a hurricane passing over this island (yet!).  

Summer maximum rainfall - variable averaging 900-1150mm (35-45") - Perfect drainage on black volcanic rocky soil.  

Nice sunsets!

Mauna Kea Cloudforest Grand Master

Mauna Kea Cloudforest

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Alexander's photos are awesome. I really like this one, that's as super silver as it gets.

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Another fellow further down posted this photo which I find so fascinating, an entire forest of super silver! Looks like a very fertile palm that has no trouble reproducing. I have discovered that seedlings do NOT like damp conditions and will damp off easily if humidity is high. According to the weather data for the area, it's a high elevation cool dry type ecosystem, i.e. 70's daytime and 50's night time. That would explain why these grow so fast here. Maybe Alexander can elaborate on what the temps were like when he was there.

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Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Al in Kona Grand Master

Al in Kona

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Isn't that last pic (by F. Moreno) above that Axel posted of the forest of Breahea Super Silver awesome! Makes me wanna plan a trip to just go see it.

Hawaii Island (Big Island), leeward coast, 19 degrees N. latitude, south Kona mauka at approx. 380m (1,250 ft.) and about 1.6 km (1-mile) upslope from ocean.

 

No record of a hurricane passing over this island (yet!).  

Summer maximum rainfall - variable averaging 900-1150mm (35-45") - Perfect drainage on black volcanic rocky soil.  

Nice sunsets!

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palmsnbananas Community Regular

palmsnbananas

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Bump, update of the Super Silver photos!

If they haven't been posted elsewhere!

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Josh-O Grand Master

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Good bump

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

Stevetoad Grand Master

Stevetoad

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Update as of last night. The tops of the leaves are holding lots of blue now. The undersides are a bit green due to the fact that I had to blast them with the hose because of a scale infestation that popped up out of no where. 

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"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Firepalm Proficient

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Looking good Steve!  It has grown a ton since I was last out there with Jastin.  Mine is starting to get a lot of silver now too and is probably about half the size of yours.  These are great plants for SoCal.

dalmatiansoap Grand Master

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Beautiful palm! Getting huge!

Peter G Experienced

Peter G

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Steve, that is amazing!!!!

A few of these are starting to make there way around Australia now, I ordered 1000 seeds a few years ago and most of them germinated.

cant wait for them to look like your one!

NorthFlpalmguy Proficient

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Amazing how the color has changed so drastically. It is a real beauty!

dalmatiansoap Grand Master

dalmatiansoap

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So, are they Dulcis or what?

GMann Proficient

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That is amazing how fast it has grown in 3 years. And I was told they are slow growers.

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Stevetoad Grand Master

Stevetoad

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7 hours ago, GMann said:

That is amazing how fast it has grown in 3 years. And I was told they are slow growers.

Nah. Give em heat and lots of water and they're pretty fast. Low water low growth. 

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Pete in Paradise Hills Proficient

Pete in Paradise Hills

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10 hours ago, GMann said:

That is amazing how fast it has grown in 3 years. And I was told they are slow growers.

Here in socal in full sun they are a sure bet to grow fast.

Paradise Hills, 4 miles inland, south facing slope in the back, north facing yard in the front

Mandrew968 Grand Master

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Steve--you got some good growing skills! Make sure you both follow each other's passions and you will always be best friends, Dad.

Stevetoad Grand Master

Stevetoad

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15 hours ago, Mandrew968 said:

Steve--you got some good growing skills! Make sure you both follow each other's passions and you will always be best friends, Dad.

For real! Got him fishing now. He is my best buddy. 

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"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

quaman58 Grand Master

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Beautiful bass Steve! Can't tell you how many memories of the boyz & me were made while drifting in S.D bay. Great picture, just the best!

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

Stevetoad Grand Master

Stevetoad

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7 hours ago, quaman58 said:

Beautiful bass Steve! Can't tell you how many memories of the boyz & me were made while drifting in S.D bay. Great picture, just the best!

Thanks Brett.  We're out there almost every weekend. Got a nice bonefish last weekend. You still fish?

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

quaman58 Grand Master

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Not as much as I like to Steve, but still have the boat. (Gotta keep the dream alive!) Been reading up on bonefish in the back part of the bay. How far back were you: way back in the shallow south end, or? 

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

Stevetoad Grand Master

Stevetoad

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4 hours ago, quaman58 said:

Not as much as I like to Steve, but still have the boat. (Gotta keep the dream alive!) Been reading up on bonefish in the back part of the bay. How far back were you: way back in the shallow south end, or? 

Just south of pepper park in 10 feet of water with a live ghost shrimp. On ultra light gear there a blast. 

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Josh-O Grand Master

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On April 29, 2016 at 6:52:54 PM, Stevetoad said:

For real! Got him fishing now. He is my best buddy. 

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Nice spotty!!

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

Josh-O Grand Master

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4 hours ago, quaman58 said:

Not as much as I like to Steve, but still have the boat. (Gotta keep the dream alive!) Been reading up on bonefish in the back part of the bay. How far back were you: way back in the shallow south end, or? 

Brett there a lot of bonefish in the Back Bay. There's also a very healthy population of them in Newport Bay. I have caught lots of then unintentionally

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

Josh-O Grand Master

Josh-O

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On April 27, 2016 at 12:13:01 PM, Stevetoad said:

Update as of last night. The tops of the leaves are holding lots of blue now. The undersides are a bit green due to the fact that I had to blast them with the hose because of a scale infestation that popped up out of no where. 

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I need to get over for a PRA soon and some cold beer

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

Stevetoad Grand Master

Stevetoad

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5 hours ago, Josh-O said:

I need to get over for a PRA soon and some cold beer

Your always welcome

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Stevetoad Grand Master

Stevetoad

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5 hours ago, Josh-O said:

Brett there a lot of bonefish in the Back Bay. There's also a very healthy population of them in Newport Bay. I have caught lots of then unintentionally

Sounds like we need a Palmtalk fishing day. I'm in!!!image.thumb.jpeg.695397e99b1b496c98f9bf8

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"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Josh-O Grand Master

Josh-O

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14 hours ago, Stevetoad said:

Your always welcome

Sweet!!

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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coops 3214 Collaborator

coops 3214

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How many people are growing these in Australia?? Are there any that have turned silver ive only seen one but it seems everyone is selling them.here so there must be a few around?

Mohsen Grand Master

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1 hour ago, coops 3214 said:

How many people are growing these in Australia?? Are there any that have turned silver ive only seen one but it seems everyone is selling them.here so there must be a few around?

Mark, let me know where I can buy one if you know?

@Kennybenjamin Does Ben   keep any ?

BTW, how cold hardy is this?

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coops 3214

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29 minutes ago, Mohsen said:

Mark, let me know where I can buy one if you know?

@Kennybenjamin Does Ben   keep any ?

BTW, how cold hardy is this?

Where abouts are u mohsen??

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30 minutes ago, Mohsen said:

Mark, let me know where I can buy one if you know?

@Kennybenjamin Does Ben   keep any ?

BTW, how cold hardy is this?

Mine are as cold hardey as my other braheas, armata, edulis and pimo all take full frost, my super silver is quicker than the pimo and armata not as quick as the edulis though

Mohsen Grand Master

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1 minute ago, coops 3214 said:

Where abouts are u mohsen??

Sydney...

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coops 3214

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Just now, Mohsen said:

Sydney...

Ben should have them if not ive got a few from premier palms in perth before let me know if u get stuck ive got a few , or msg me on my mob 0401726453, 

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2 hours ago, Mohsen said:

Mark, let me know where I can buy one if you know?

@Kennybenjamin Does Ben   keep any ?

BTW, how cold hardy is this?

I do indeed have a couple of small ones, if you are interested in 1 I am happy to supply pics and palms. Very limited number available though.

Great pics Steve, family and Palm pics... Love them all!!:D

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Have u got any that have turned silver yet ben?? There like an urban legend down here lol

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