Show us your Borassus

[SubTropicRay]

The genus Borassus is under-discussed on ths forum.  Bismarckia gets a ton of attention yet Borassus has superior size and appearance in my humble opinion.  Please show us your Borassus photos.

Ray

[Eric in Orlando]

Ray, here is a Borassus madagascariensis that was just planted a few months ago. (The big Bismarckia is to behind and to the left but out of the photo);

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/leu4510....8

[jimbiz]

Ray, is Borassus easy to find in FL nurseries?

Seems like someone in this forum about a year ago suggested B. aethopium for S. Texas.

[leomx]

This is not my Borassus but...

[Zac in NC]

(jimbiz @ Jan. 27 2007,11:34)

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Ray, is Borassus easy to find in FL nurseries?

Seems like someone in this forum about a year ago suggested B. aethopium for S. Texas.

Yeah there was one in Brownsville but when I was with Richard looking for it, I believe it had either died or been unsuccessfully moved. Don't know how common they are in nurseries though.

Zac

[BS Man about Palms]

He-he....he wants to see our asses.....  I was trying to cool it on the Ranch hands for a while.....at least in this forum..  :cool:

[Dypsisdean]

Wasn't that a large Borassus with many feet of trunk that Ken dug and moved not too long ago? I wonder how that one has been doing?

[Zac in NC]

Leo- Is that really a Borassus? To my untrained eye, it almost looks more Latania like to me.

Zac

[bgl]

Ray,

I definitely think Borassus are very impressive palms, but I'm not sure all that many people would actually consider them more attractive than Bismarckias (I don't). Bismarckias are probably also more adaptable to a wider variety of environments than Borassus, plus I'm convinced they are considerable faster growers. All of which are important factors when it comes to marketability, interest and demand.

I have a few small ones, and even though they do well here, I know for a fact that we don't have enough heat from them to really thrive. This is my biggest one, a Borassus flabellifer, that I bought from Garrett Webb / Kalaoa Gardens in Sep 2003 as a 15G plant. It's about 4 ft tall today.

Bo-Göran

[bgl]

And this is a sister plant, which is considerably larger. I took the photo at Kalaoa Gardens, Garrett Webb's nursery, on the Kona side of the Big Island in June 2006. The location is sea level, only a couple of miles away from the airport, with nonstop sunshine, very little rain and HOT HOT weather!!

[leomx]

Zac, sure it is.

You`re right Ken.

[Ken Johnson]

I will post a shot later this morning. It is doing fine.

BTW isn't post #11 a Bizzy?

[Carlo Morici]

Borassus aethiopum in the African Section of the Palmetum of Santa Cruz. Seeds collected in 1996 (by me!) at the Jardín Botánico de Cienfuegos, in Cuba. Sown in some long pipes and planted in the ground in 2000. Now they are about 3m tall... I think we have to remove the Elaeis guineensis behind.

Carlo, Tenerife

[Brad-Tampa]

Ray, This is my first post, let's see if I get it right.

These are three Borassus that I know you saw last March but I thought I would try to share. Dad grew them from seed at three separate times. Both of the older plants are staminate and show trunk damage from the Xmas '89(?) freeze. They were defoliated but recovered in time.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums....041.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums....002.jpg

[bgl]

Hi Brad,

Welcome to the IPS Forum! Glad to have you participating. I'm sure you can add a lot of interesting and valuable information & photos!

And those are some very impressive palms!

Aloha,

Bo-Göran

[SubTropicRay]

Hi Bo,

As a young palm, I would agree with you that Bismarckia is more attractive.  In my opinion, a full grown Borassus is more breathtaking than a Bismarckia.  Yes, the Bismarckia is more adaptable and grows faster but since when does that what make a palm superior? I hope someone will post a photo here of the Fairchild Borassus couple.  The huge seeds underneath the massive canopy are a sight to behold.  

Hi Brad,

I have been marveling at your father's plants for years.  Thanks for posting here.  Please visit this forum more often.  

Ray

[bgl]

Ray,

Just for clarification - I agree with everything you said above. And I would never use the word 'superior' in this context. Borassus palms are indeed fantastic looking palms, especially when they get up in size and it was a special thrill to see them scattered all over the Thai landscape when we were there during the Biennial in 1998.

Bo-Göran

[Eric in Orlando]

Ray, here are the 2 B. aethiopum at Fairchild;

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/ftgd200....1

and a B. flabellifer;

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/ftgd200....2

Out in the lowlands past that stand of Copernicia baileyana are some hybrid Borassus but I can't find my photos of them.

[Jeff Searle]

All,

  We would see alot more of these if the seed were alot cheaper. And more readily available too.

Jeff

[ZoneTenNut]

(Eric in Orlando @ Jan. 28 2007,21:49)

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Ray, here are the 2 B. aethiopum at Fairchild;

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/ftgd200....1

and a B. flabellifer;

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/ftgd200....2

Out in the lowlands past that stand of Copernicia baileyana are some hybrid Borassus but I can't find my photos of them.

Do you know how old that B. flabellifer at Fairchild is?  I put one of these in my yard 4 years ago and it has hardly grown at all.

[SubTropicRay]

For perspective, I believe the 40-50 foot tall specimen of B. aethiopum in Dr. U.A. Young's Tampa garden was planted in the 1970's.  Hopefully, Brad Young will see this follow up and confirm this.

Ray

[Brad-Tampa]

I don't know for sure but early '70's or before is about the time frame for the oldest one.

[Tad]

zac, i just read this, if the one in question is the one at pete's old house, it's still there and doing fine.

[chris.oz]

Heres some Borassus aethiopium in habitat  [ based on its location ]  on the savannah in central Sudan,  near Kadugli,  this is seasonally dry,  with a rainfall of around 1200 mm per year.  But NO rain for 4-5 months and blistering heat of 40-50C every day.  The locals use many parts of these,  but complain they are slow to grow.

[Daryl]

Here's one of my young Bo's...starting to get shaded out..pretty slow as a seedling.

B.flabellifer

[Daryl]

Here's one of my Bo aethiopiums

I've seen quite a few flabellifer in Oz, but not one Aethiopium ('cept mine of course!) If anybody knows of any large plants please let me know!

Daryl

[chris.oz]

Daryl,

Did that Corypha umbraculifera seed germinate ?  May have been on the ground a while.....

Daryl,

I see below there is at least one  new palm  from the dead Singapore Talipot.  Good to see  

[Daryl]

Hi Chris, yes, it has done very well. And so did the Pritchardia seed you sent up...many thanks again. I will grow the corypha on for another year in a pot, then in the ground it will go..either in my new garden or here if I decide to stay! The more time goes on the more I'm inclined to not leave here!

Just went outside and took this photo..sorry for straying from Borassus folks...

regards,

Daryl

[Eric in Orlando]

I found the photo. Here is the Borassus hybrid at Fairchild. At least 1 of the palms to the right of the road is B. flabellifer x aethiopum. I think it is the 2 palms tot he right of the road that are closest, the one furthest out I think is a B. aethiopum.

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/ftgd200....27

[ViveroLaVida]

Here is a stand of borrasus i have no idea what species these are located in the jardin botanico de La Havana

[Zac in NC]

(palmotrafficante @ Jan. 28 2007,23:40)

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zac, i just read this, if the one in question is the one at pete's old house, it's still there and doing fine.

Tad- Is that the one that Bob had in The Tropical Look? If it is, thats the one we went by and couldn't see.

Zac

[Tad]

??? i dunno about which one is in the book zac, but the big  man sent me and another conspirator to inquire as to whether or not we could purchase it..... it was decided that we would just wait till the time is right and snatch it with the spade truck.  since pete died whoever is the new owner of the house is not into palms or visitors for that matter. its about 8 ro 10 overall height...its the aethiopum type i belive.

[richtrav]

Tad

Yes it's the one at the neighbor of Peter Heinz's old house, they have very sensitive roots, to dig it would almost certainly be a Death Sentence. The seed was planted directly in the ground from Joe Michael's borassus in Florida, who was Peter's cousin.

[Tad]

well he is on a different mission now, some have already been planted at the camp anyway.

and seed should begin to arrive soon,allthough not from camp.

[SubTropicRay]

Thanks for the great photo Oscar.

Ray

[Sabal Steve]

I discovered this at the Zoo today.  Everything up in this area is on really free draining soil.  I thought that this may have been one of the flatter leafed Sabals, until I got a look at the trunk, and saw the spines on the petioles.

Anyone know which species this is?

 

[Phoenikakias]

Steve, unles picture deceives, I can not call them spines exactly. They look instead like tiny teeth and imo the most accurate description is minutely serrate petiole.  Such are also the petioles of Trachycarpus and even my Bismarckia shows this feature on robust and perfectly healthy leaves...

 

[Pal Meir]

Not my Borassus, but my photos, and beautiful anyway: Borassus flabellifer in habitat near Cape Comorin / Tamil Nadu (1977-12-17)

[Phoenikakias]

Have you ever tried to climb to the crown of one of those monsters (when you were young)?

[Pal Meir]

Have you ever tried to climb to the crown of one of those monsters (when you were young)?

What do you mean with "when you were young"? I am still young, look at my passport photo: