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Mangotree for small yard, "nam doc mai"?

nick

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Hi folks,

searching for a grafted mangotree, not to big and good for pruning and fruits to harvest in Autumn.

I focus on "nam doc mai", but ripening of the fruits is mentiond with june-july. Does it mean in general or only in the tropics or for mediterranean climate as well?

I am looking forward to replies.

USDA 10b - 19.1°C/ 66.4°F 24hr average/ year

sunshine: 3.400 hrs year.

Precipitation: 380mm/ 15 inches/ year.

Peter G Experienced

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In Perth the Kensington Pride Variety is the most popular, the tree itself would be similar in size to Peach tree. Harvest time, is approx mid Summer to Autumn. I haven't seen any other varieties in Perth, I'm not sure if this is due to them not being able to grow in our climate or not being available.

empireo22 Proficient

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I suggest Mallika it is an Indian cultivar that is recomended for small backyards. the fruit is small and fiberless like nam doc mai. hmm it will probaly flower later and produce in september for your climate, but that is just a guess.

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thx. The offers are comparatively poor on our island. Unfortunately I cannot get those varieties. There are some nameless and "nam doc mai" to get at the moment. The size of the tree and to harvest most of the fruits in autumn are most important.

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USDA 10b - 19.1°C/ 66.4°F 24hr average/ year

sunshine: 3.400 hrs year.

Precipitation: 380mm/ 15 inches/ year.

Moose Grand Master

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Nick - here is a list of "Condo Mangos". These are mangos which can be maintained as container grown mini trees. Some people in Miami culivate them on their apartment balconies. http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/condo.shtml

I have no connection to this nursery and this is not an endorsement. From what I have heard, they have a very good local reputation. Their website provides some valuable information that may be beneficial to you.

Good luck - these are awesome fruits! :greenthumb:

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

SubTropicRay Grand Master

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Neelum and Julie are great small trees with delicious fruit. Nam Doc Mai is a huge tree so steer away from that cultivar.

Tampa, Interbay Peninsula, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10A

Bokeelia, Pine Island, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10B

MattyB Grand Master

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Hi nick, where are you at?

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

nick Collaborator

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thx all for your replies.

Ray Tampa: "Nam Doc Mai is a huge tree"

Why? "nam doc mai" is found unter condo mangos. http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/condo.shtml

E.g. This size would be o.k. http://toptropicals.com/pics/garden/04/0500/0287.jpg

@ MattyB: At the moment, only "nam doc mai" seems to be easy to get for me. The main point is, when are the fruits ready for harvesting in subtropical climate. Same as in the tropics or later?

The reason for my questin is, to have fruits nearly year around. The mango would fit well in September/Oktober.

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USDA 10b - 19.1°C/ 66.4°F 24hr average/ year

sunshine: 3.400 hrs year.

Precipitation: 380mm/ 15 inches/ year.

Moose Grand Master

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thx all for your replies.

Ray Tampa: "Nam Doc Mai is a huge tree"

Why? "nam doc mai" is found unter condo mangos. http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/condo.shtml

E.g. This size would be o.k. http://toptropicals.com/pics/garden/04/0500/0287.jpg

@ MattyB: At the moment, only "nam doc mai" seems to be easy to get for me. The main point is, when are the fruits ready for harvesting in subtropical climate. Same as in the tropics or later?

The reason for my questin is, to have fruits nearly year around. The mango would fit well in September/Oktober.

Nick - the Nam Doc Mai cultivar is listed as a condo mango because it can be successfully cultivated as a small container tree and still produce fruit if properly maintained. If planted in the ground and left to its own devices here in Florida - it will get big.

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

nick Collaborator

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Moose, no problem to prune the mango properly.

Regarding the time of harvesting I want to repeat if somebody has experience in subtropic climate?

USDA 10b - 19.1°C/ 66.4°F 24hr average/ year

sunshine: 3.400 hrs year.

Precipitation: 380mm/ 15 inches/ year.

Luisd Community Regular

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Hi Nick, this page have some varieties:

http://www.canarius.com/shop/mango

Here are mango crops on the coast of Granada and Málaga, and Osteen is the most cultivated. I´ve also seen mango trees inland, where temperatures are colder in winter, and resist well. Here ripen somewhat later, and some finish in november.

nick Collaborator

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Luisd, thank you for the link and your information. Very interesting nursery, worldwide shipping.
Regarding ripenig of different varieties in your region, I`m looking forward, if you have more details.

USDA 10b - 19.1°C/ 66.4°F 24hr average/ year

sunshine: 3.400 hrs year.

Precipitation: 380mm/ 15 inches/ year.

SubTropicRay Grand Master

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Moose, no problem to prune the mango properly.

Pruning a containerized, fast growing mango can affect the plants fruit production.

Tampa, Interbay Peninsula, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10A

Bokeelia, Pine Island, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10B

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empireo22 Proficient

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did you get the mango?

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I got a small nam doc mai and want to try how it works, but it is still in container.

Seems to be nobody else has planted this variety in similar mediterranean climate.

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USDA 10b - 19.1°C/ 66.4°F 24hr average/ year

sunshine: 3.400 hrs year.

Precipitation: 380mm/ 15 inches/ year.

Moose Grand Master

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We've been eating tons of 'Haden' mangos here. The 'Keitt' cultivar if loaded but is still gotta couple of months before ready. We have an early and late varieties. I need a middle producing variety so I can have mangos for 4 months of the year! :drool:

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

nick Collaborator

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Moose, the nam doc mai is producing mainly jun/july in the tropics. Maybe later here. Some comments mentioned year around.

Worth trying out.

USDA 10b - 19.1°C/ 66.4°F 24hr average/ year

sunshine: 3.400 hrs year.

Precipitation: 380mm/ 15 inches/ year.

JungleGina Rising Star

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My nam doc mai produces fruit in June, however, this year we had a mild winter so I had two flowerings. One will be ready in June and the others are just starting so I have no idea when they'll be ready. If you don't prune too hard, which many people here do for storm season, you can still maintain good fruit production. There is a good article on pruning from University of Florida that I'll try to attach. I have to say I LOVE NAM DOC MAI because there's NO fiber and they are sooo delicious. I'm spoiled now and don't want any "regular" mangoes.

Pruning_Mango_Trees.pdf

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Aloha, JungleGina

Zone 9b, Sunny Sarasota, Florida

nick Collaborator

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JungleGina, good to know, there are some more nam doc mai lovers here. Thank you for the attached pdf. There are some vids aswell on youtube, e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlhF-YphevA

Regarding heavy pruning, it depends how fast the mango grows in our poor soil. We have no storm season, the only reason to prune regulary is because of the limited space.

USDA 10b - 19.1°C/ 66.4°F 24hr average/ year

sunshine: 3.400 hrs year.

Precipitation: 380mm/ 15 inches/ year.

Moose Grand Master

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This is my Keitt mango. This cultivar was developed in Homestead, Florida in the 1940's. The fruits are large, averaging 3-4 lbs. on my tree. I once had a monster that weighed in at 5.5 lbs. It is among the heaviest bearing of the cultivars and is a late season mango.

The flesh is lemon yellow, firm and juicy with a mild sweet flavor. Photos were taken last night as the sun was setting. :wub:

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

empireo22 Proficient

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This is my Keitt mango. This cultivar was developed in Homestead, Florida in the 1940's. The fruits are large, averaging 3-4 lbs. on my tree. I once had a monster that weighed in at 5.5 lbs. It is among the heaviest bearing of the cultivars and is a late season mango.

The flesh is lemon yellow, firm and juicy with a mild sweet flavor. Photos were taken last night as the sun was setting. :wub:

Do you water your mango? how about squirrels taking the fruit?

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kathy a. Newbie

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On 4/21/2013 at 1:45 PM, Moose said:

 

Nick - the Nam Doc Mai cultivar is listed as a condo mango because it can be successfully cultivated as a small container tree and still produce fruit if properly maintained. If planted in the ground and left to its own devices here in Florida - it will get big.

I have my Nam Doc Mai in the ground....probably need to trim it this year after fruiting...probably 15 - 18' tall.  Never trimmed before. Been growing about 4 - 5 yrs. from a 15 gal. tree.  It has wonderful large fruit with no strings....fruit starting to mature now, end of June.....You would not be disappointed!  I'm in So. Florida zone 9

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