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sabal pumos ID


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I picked up a sabal pumos a while back but i am now questioning whether this is the real thing. It's got a lot of blue to it yet the pumos pics I've found online all are green.

Here is a photo:

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Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

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Blue leaves would suggest S. uresana still a very attractive palm. Best regards Ed

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if this can help,sabal Pumos are very slow in growth
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GIUSEPPE

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I have Sabal pumos seedlings,seeds from rps,they are also very blue?

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I have Sabal pumos seedlings,seeds from rps,they are also very blue?

OK, this is the confirmation I needed, then I've got the real thing. Mine came from RPS as well. This is the only sabal with fruit worth eating. Someone above said it's very slow to get going, seems to be the case here.

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

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I dont know what to tell you , they arent blue in habitat or any of the id keys,

Ed

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I dont know what to tell you , they arent blue in habitat or any of the id keys,

Ed

Yes, I know, Ed, the adults are all green, hence my question. i am not trying to rule out the possibility it's uresana, that wouldn't be a bad outcome. But several of the sabals have bluish as seedlings but that disappears as they get older. My sabal maritima seedling has a slight blue tinge to it as well, and it comes from a reliable source. I would be interested in finding a key for sabal pumos that includes info of it as a seedling.

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Posted
if this serves to make for confusion
the my are not blue, ( are 3 sabal pumos)
Origin of seeds, not RPS,
the seeds were very large
I bought them in spring 2007
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GIUSEPPE

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I dont know what to tell you , they arent blue in habitat or any of the id keys,

Ed

Yes, I know, Ed, the adults are all green, hence my question. i am not trying to rule out the possibility it's uresana, that wouldn't be a bad outcome. But several of the sabals have bluish as seedlings but that disappears as they get older. My sabal maritima seedling has a slight blue tinge to it as well, and it comes from a reliable source. I would be interested in finding a key for sabal pumos that includes info of it as a seedling.

 

Good point,

we collected a bunch of seeds I only have 2 small plants after 18 years ---

I took some photos and so did Merrill Wilcox but this was a number of years ago we had Zonas monograph of localities and drove through Mexico to find the different Sabal species. It was 1994, and my experience was limited --- Dr. Noblick has a key that he uses to easlily distinquish Sabals however only the seeds are mentioned and adult characteristics. enclosed is a pdf of the lamina

you can probably look at the a small leaf piece to see if the lamina match this . D is S. pumos I am citing Zona 's 1990 monograph on the Genus.

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Please contact me privately for the pdf it shows the micrograph of the leaf lamina may be you can compare it to yours for exact id. --- I will see if I have any photos of the seedlings to compare -- photos were taken a long time ago and are in a box somewhere. Merrill might have a few photos as he took alot of pictures. Best regards Ed

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