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Fan, feather, fish  

31 members have voted

  1. 1. Fan, feather or fish

    • Fan
      7
    • Feather
      21
    • Fish
      3


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Posted

What is your favorite type of palm? Palmate? Pinnate? Or bipinnate?

My vote goes with fans. Love them things!

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Posted

too hard so I'll say costapalmate

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Oooh, I can smell a good thread starting! I can't actually answer the poll because I like them all. I started out with feather and fish and after staring at my giant caryotas and parajubaeas for 15 years I got used to the look and started to go nuts for fan palms of which I had too few, only braheas and trachys. I sure have played catch up this year. But I hear this is a pretty standard evolution for most palm nuts, most start out shunning fan palms going for the more tropical pinnate look first. But IMHO a pinnate only garden is pretty boring.

But I'd like to come up with a more elaborate list:

1) Crownshaft feathers: kings, rhopies, chamberyonia, etc...

2) Mediterranean feathers: phoenix and company

3) Coconutty feathers: cocos, parajubaea, beccariophoenix, some syagrus, ceroxylon etc...

4) Plumose: queen, foxtail, syagrus

5) Fish

6) Desert fans: upright like washingtonia and brahea

7) Astronomer fans: silver fans such as copernicias, bismarckia, brahea

8) Tropical fan: (not all costapalmate) livistona decora, saribus or benthamii, sabal mauritiformus, Cryosophila, liculata

9) Jurassic fans: sabals, opernicia Baileyana, bismarckia

10) Jurassic pinnate: Palms with 100+ pound fronds - dypsis Tokoravina, dypsis robusta

Note there is some overlap, for example bismarckia is 6) 7) and 9) all wrapped into one.

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Posted

At least we're still on the tarmac.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Damn thats hard. I have to go with fan for now. first it was the feathers, then the fish, now the fan.

Grateful to have what I have, Les amis de mes amis sont mes amis!

Posted

For me only feathers counts, have those palms exclusively. :)

Member of the ultimate Lytocaryum fan society :)

Posted

My favorites are irregularly split leaves which are technically feather, so I voted for feather.

Frank

 

Zone 9b pine flatlands

humid/hot summers; dry/cool winters

with yearly freezes

Posted

I started out like almost everyone else loving the pinnate palms, but have learned to appreciate some of the palmate ones and have now included several in my garden to give it a more varied look. Still no doubt that I prefer the feather to the fan though and have to admit that I have never been enamored with the fish look and probably never will be.

Unfortunately, in SoCal most of my favorite fan species/genera either don't grow or aren't readily available, e.g., Copernicia Fallaensis, Copernicia Baileyana, Corypha, Licuala.

Posted (edited)

Love em all, but the most impressive to me are the big fans... Borassus, Corypha, bismarckia, Copernicia bailey and fallense, big sabals, blue fan palms like brahea armata, clara, copernicia hospita... But that being said, any garden that has just feathers or just fans is a bit boring to me. Just like if everything were blue, blue wouldnt be so special... Fans and feathers are complementary in texture provided int he landscape, and are best used to set each other off... like yin and yang...

Edited by sonoranfans

Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

Tom Blank

Posted

Tough one. Most of my palms are pinnate, but some of my favorites are fans, notably Kerriodoxa, Tahina, and Licuala.

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Posted

If fish weren't monocarpic, they'd be everywhere!

Posted

for my landscape 65% feather, 35% fan

When that small bismarckia in your front yard finally takes off, it will be more like 65% fan 35% feather. You need to put some plastic around that thing to get it to grow some size.

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Posted

for my landscape 65% feather, 35% fan

When that small bismarckia in your front yard finally takes off, it will be more like 65% fan 35% feather. You need to put some plastic around that thing to get it to grow some size.

True, the Bismarckias eventually take up some space, but what I meant was if I planted 100 palms, about 65 of them would be the feather style.

Perry Glenn

SLO Palms

(805) 550-2708

http://www.slopalms.com

Posted

Here is how well green feather mixes with blue fan: my p. cocoides looked a bit lonely so I got it an astronomer friend, a brahea clara. Yin (cocoides) and yang (clara) a match made in heaven. It was too cloudy this Morning to see the real green-blue contrast.

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Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Posted (edited)

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Actually it hard for decision because color and texture are also the point. At first I like fan and fish then feather. But for my weather, "fish" is hard to survived but it challenge for keep them survive.

Edited by pop
Posted

Overall I like feather palms the most, but I own some feathers and a fan palm. Even though I prefer feather palms my favorite palm is a fan palm, the silver Bismarckia Nobilis

Posted

all of them

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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Posted

all of them

Same as Dave,All....but not all fan feather or fish :) or stone scissors rock. :)

Posted

Here is how well green feather mixes with blue fan: my p. cocoides looked a bit lonely so I got it an astronomer friend, a brahea clara. Yin (cocoides) and yang (clara) a match made in heaven. It was too cloudy this Morning to see the real green-blue contrast.

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You're going to host a NorCal Palm Society meeting soon, I hope?

Jason Dewees

Inner Sunset District

San Francisco, California

Sunset zone 17

USDA zone 10a

21 inches / 530mm annual rainfall, mostly October to April

Humidity averages 60 to 85 percent year-round.

Summer: 67F/55F | 19C/12C

Winter: 56F/44F | 13C/6C

40-year extremes: 96F/26F | 35.5C/-3.8C

Posted

Impossible to choose. How about any palm with a frond. Well, I like cycads too. Dohhh! I'm so indecisive on the important stuff! :rolleyes:

Land O Lakes FL, a suburb on the North Side of Tampa, FL

Summers are great, 90f/32c in the day & 70f/21c at night with plentiful rain & sun

Winters are subtropical with occasional frosts and freezes. Tropical cyclones happen.

We have a few Royal palms in the warm microclimates but Coconuts freeze.

I am a Kayaker, Hiker, Bicyclist, and amateur Photographer that loves the outdoors.  

Posted

Fish?

"Ph'nglui mglw'napalma Funkthulhu R'Lincolnea wgah'palm fhtagn"
"In his house at Lincoln, dread Funkthulhu plants palm trees."

Posted

Here is how well green feather mixes with blue fan: my p. cocoides looked a bit lonely so I got it an astronomer friend, a brahea clara. Yin (cocoides) and yang (clara) a match made in heaven. It was too cloudy this Morning to see the real green-blue contrast.

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You're going to host a NorCal Palm Society meeting soon, I hope?

Yes, in June, i think it's the 22nd.

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Posted

Here is how well green feather mixes with blue fan: my p. cocoides looked a bit lonely so I got it an astronomer friend, a brahea clara. Yin (cocoides) and yang (clara) a match made in heaven. It was too cloudy this Morning to see the real green-blue contrast.

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You're going to host a NorCal Palm Society meeting soon, I hope?

Yes, in June, i think it's the 22nd.

Oops, gave the wrong date, June 15th, not the 22nd.

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Posted

too hard so I'll say costapalmate

I agree, thinking about it got me constipated too.

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Posted

Oh Gosh!! Not sure.. Used to be Plumose without a doubt but now that I live in the tropics... The more Fan (closer to circle) the better.. So licualas.. Also anything with a BIG leaf!

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