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Will this be a fence pusher?

Peter G

By Peter G
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Peter G Experienced

Peter G

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My friends planted this Brahea Armata yesterday, I am concerned it is a little too close to the fence. From the base of the trunk to the fence is 29cm.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Peter

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doranakandawatta Grand Master

doranakandawatta

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Is the fence allowed to move and bent?

Maybe in 10 or 20 years it'll be an issue. or maybe the neighbor will enjoy seeing trunk and crownshaft and open the fence, sharing the beauty!

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Philippe

 

Jungle Paradise in Sri Lanka

 

KennyRE317 Mentor

KennyRE317

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Looks like he could have planted it out another foot or so

Kostas Grand Master

Kostas

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This palm seems to be already about a foot in diameter if i judge it right. B. armata are supposed to reach 60-90cm in trunk diameter and so i would think that this palm may eventually reach the fence with its trunk if it gets to be on the fat side but shouldnt need push it and damage it if its a sturdy-ish fence and able to withstand the push of the root boss it may develop eventually.

''To try,is to risk failure.......To not try,is to guarantee it''

Mauna Kea Cloudforest Grand Master

Mauna Kea Cloudforest

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Not a good move, the palm should be planted so that the trunk is at least 1-2 meters away from the fence. Trunks for brahea armata are fat, and planting it this close to the fence is not visually pleasing, fronds will just get squashed. It needs a lot of room so the fronds can spread. What in the world motivated your friend to squeeze it against the fence?

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Kostas Grand Master

Kostas

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Here is a grown example of about how this could look like with a W. robusta(Sonora) as the model :)

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Your fence is not see through though and is taller than mine with a slower growing species but i think the result should be similar. Whatever and if the palm does,i am sure the result will be visually pleasing as its a nice palm and will only get more beautiful! :) If however you worry about the fence and the pot wasnt too awfully heavy,you can let the rootball dry out some,pull it up and move it a little to the front.

''To try,is to risk failure.......To not try,is to guarantee it''

KennyRE317 Mentor

KennyRE317

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my butia's almost 2ft wide at the base of the crown and i cut it close by putting it 2' from the block wall, hopefully it's enough room for it but the fronds are over the wall already

WestCoastGal Grand Master

WestCoastGal

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Considering your friends have grass in front of the brahea, I would bump out/curve the planting bed there and relocate the palm further away from the fence. Adding curves to a planting bed line gives the yard a much nicer look I think. It was advice give to us when we were planning our yard and we did it in several places and do think the look is nicer.

Zone 9b (formerly listed as Zone 9a); Sunset 14

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Stick a large rock in between the fence and the palm trunk. That coupled with the fact that the palm fronds will "feel" the fence will make the palm creep and lean towards the lawn over time. I wouldn't worry about it. It might touch the fence eventually at the base, but it'll probably just bend the bottom a little bit and you won't even notice it.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

paulgila Grand Master

paulgila

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I was going to say if its a problem you could just cut out part of the fence but I just noticed that its not a wooden fence. :mrlooney:

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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Some armatas are a lot fatter than others. That one might or might not get fat enough to matter. That said, I would have given it more room, but Matt's advice is sound, too. Besides, a nice palm is always worth modifying a fence, if need be. It's not wood, but not solid gold either . . . . :)

A bigger problem might be too much water spraying on the trunk. Some of the Braheas don't like that and will rot where they're hit.

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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BeaumontTropics Proficient

BeaumontTropics

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Stick a large rock in between the fence and the palm trunk. That coupled with the fact that the palm fronds will "feel" the fence will make the palm creep and lean towards the lawn over time. I wouldn't worry about it. It might touch the fence eventually at the base, but it'll probably just bend the bottom a little bit and you won't even notice it.

----I agree with Matt. I planted a Sabal within 2 ft of my fence and it has already started to lean away from it "finding" more room for itself. It's been in the ground less than 3 years and the fence is not an issue. and even if it does push fronds against the fence, it's not like a eucalyptus or something that will knock the fence over. worst case scenario, you'll have to "bonzai" some of the fronds for a little while until they clear the fence, then it won't matter! My Armata is one of my best growers and given enough heat and fertilizer and not too much water, as Dooms Dave eluded to, that thing will grow faster than you think!

--FINS UP TO THE FAN PALMS!!!! __(\__ !!

Living in the valley of the dirt people in the inland empire, "A mullet on every head and a methlab in every kitchen." If you can't afford to live in the tropics, then bring the tropics to you!

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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If you cut the leaves off of one side the plant will lean towards the other direction due to the perceived lack of light on the cut side.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Hammer Grand Master

Hammer

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If you cut the leaves off of one side the plant will lean towards the other direction due to the perceived lack of light on the cut side.

Cool! I'm gonna use this trick. Thanks for sharing that Matty!
hopper Collaborator

hopper

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I hate to think what this thing is doing to this fence?

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I have been walking past this mess on the way to the train station for about 2 years now.

Looks to be a rental property.

Peter G Experienced

Peter G

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Good news, the Brahea has been moved forward

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DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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Good news, the Brahea has been moved forward

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Good! Unless it's a mega fatty, you shouldn't have any problems.

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply.

Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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That's a big specimen, don't see them that large for sale anywhere near here. Hope it goes well for you and deosn't mind the shift.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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That's a big specimen, don't see them that large for sale anywhere near here. Hope it goes well for you and deosn't mind the shift.

If all goes well, it won't be small for long.

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply.

Mauna Kea Cloudforest Grand Master

Mauna Kea Cloudforest

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Good news, the Brahea has been moved forward

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Looks perfect! I am impressed that this brahea is showing no K deficiencies Most potted armatas and claras get these spots showing K deficiencies that only goes away in the ground or when in a 36" box.

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

empireo22 Proficient

empireo22

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:wub: Braheas

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