Introducing myself

[Davi Aguiar]

Hi palmtalk members!

My name is Davi and come from Belo Horizonte, Brazil. I've been a member of palmtalk for a while, but I've never posted a single post. So today I decided to make up for that, posting some photos of my palm trees which I grow in my farm, in the nearby town of Ouro Preto. There it's not as warm as some of my palms would like, but it rarely freezes, and, even though I'm not sure, I think the maximum temperature of the day is over 15C every day of the year.

I'm not sure about the name of all my palms, maybe you could help me on that.

Mauritia flexuosa: Not doing very well, some died probably because cold.

Mauritiella armata: Has done a lot better than Mauritia flexuosa, just lost some in the shade.

Oenocarpus (not sure which species): rather slow growing here(grown shaded):

Bactris gasipaes: About the same age and conditions as Oenocarpus(you can see the trunks of it in Oenocarpus photo)

Spiny one doing a bit worse:

... Continue

Best regards,

Davi

[Davi Aguiar]

Geonoma schottiana(?): Very slow growth, dies easily.

Geonoma
(?): Not sure where the seeds were collected, but I think it way in the
Serra do Cipó, a location about 100km north of my city.

Lytocaryum waddellianum:

Euterpe edulis: Many.

Butia: recently planted

Syagrus Olearacea:

I have a few others that I've yet to find the pictures or take new ones.

Best regards,

Davi

[Pedro 65]

Welcome to Palmtalk Davi, what beautiful soil you have on you property in Brazil , love you Euterpe edulis forest, happy growing. Pete

[KennyRE317]

Euterpe edulis is one of my favorites, in over all asthetics

[Alberto]

Oi Davi!

Bem-vindo ao Palmtalk! It´s good to have more brazilians here!

I´ve been in Ouro Preto a long time ago when I was 18 years old. Two friends who lived in Belo Horizonte took a bus to Ouro Preto With tents on our shoulders we made a 'trek' to the Itacolomi stone. I remember the cold weather and the icy streams the interesting mountain vegetation near the top, I also remember an Araucaria angustifolia and a cypres who somebody planted near the top. We stayed for three days at the mountain and after that , on a Sunday we visited the city of Ouro Preto. It´s certainly one of the most pictoresque and beautifull cities of Brazil!

Your climate is certainly warmer then mine here. What are your maximum temperatures? Have you tried to grow Parajubaeas and Ceroxylons and other high altitude palms? I´m very curious about the palms you can grow! Thanks for sharing this pics!

BTW How cold is it there now. Has the last cold front reached Ouro Preto? I see a pinheiro-do-paraná growing near the Bactris (do they seed there?)

Um abraço!

[Alberto]

Davi, Geonoma schottiana also grows here, generally in VERY wet places, with very high atmosferic humidity, in deep shade.

I remember I saw them growing in Poços de Caldas, when I went up the hill there with the cable car.

[Alberto]

Ouro Preto - UNESCO World Heritage Site

In this video you can see the "Itacolomi" stone in the first scene of the video showing the Historical city of Ouro Preto

[Cindy Adair]

Welcome to Palmtalk! I've never been to your country so I especially enjoy your photos! You have a lovely collection of palms.

Lorenzi's books on Brazilian Trees and Brazilian Flora give me a glimpse of what can grow and I refer to them often.

I'm glad you decided to take the plunge and post here.

[Stevetoad]

i love that grove of euterpe!

[SanDimas]

Yea me2.

I like the Euterpes as well but NO success growing

the olearacea nor the edulis in SoCAL.

Anyone with beter luck with these?

At least my Ceroxylon amazonicum 1G seedling is thriving in shade.

Cheers.

[paulgila]

hi davi! nice to have you here!

[Lowey]

Hi Davi, welcome to Palm Talk, you have some nice palms there.

[Davi Aguiar]

Thank you
all for your warm welcome and compliments!

Oi Alberto!
I'm glad you enjoyed your time around Ouro Preto. I'm not quite sure about
maximum temperatures there, but I suppose it goes to the mid 30sC. Though the
farm is officially part of Ouro Preto, it's about 30km from the
actual city. It's much closer to the city of Itabirito, about 15km. The farm
lies from 950 to 1100m above the sea level, most of the palms are about 1000m
of altitude. Considering Itabirito's climate, which I found little info about
on the internet, the yearly average maximum is 23.2 C, the average minimum is
14.6C and the average 18.5 C. It's around 15-25 C now, and the cold front has
not reached here yet. I have
not tried neither Parajubeas nor Ceroxylons, though I'd like to try, do you
think they would grow here?

The other
palms that I grow are Syagrus flexuosa,
Allagoptera caudensis(seedling), Euterpe oleracea(seedling), Orbignya phalerata(seedling),
Aiphanes aculeata(seedling), Acrocamia aculeata(seedling and native), Caryota
mitis(seedling), Dypsis decaryi, Phoenix roebelenii(seedling), phoenix sp.
(seedling) – I got the seeds from multiple trunked phoenix, and another
seedling from a seed of a cultivated palm tree which looks like a Allagoptera areniana,
but had some 2m tall trunks, which according to Lorenzi's book 'Palmeiras Brasileiras',
should be very short.

The Araucaria angustifolia does seed there,
but most of the seeds are not good to eat, but some are.

Hi
apaandssa! I also like Lorenzi's books one Brazilian Trees, I've four of them!

Hi
SanDimas! I think Euterpe edulis is a lot hardier than Euterpe edulis. I have
small seedlings of both of them . The Euterpe edulis seedlings are younger, bigger
and a lot healthier than the Euterpe oleracea seedlings which in the
winter(now) are damaged by the cool weather.

Some more pictures:

Syagrus flexuosa:

Euterpe + Bactris:

View from a distance of my biggest Euterpe Edulis:

Close up on the inflorescence(with the spiny Bactris on the background):

Allagoptera caudensis seedlings:

Other Euterpe pictures:

Best regards!

Davi

[Walter John]

Hello Davi, is there many palm species available near you ? It looks like a good place to grow Chamaedoreas. I too love that first Euterpe grove photo, magic palm.

[gyuseppe]

Syagrus flexuosa:

beautiful

[palmislandRandy]

Nice to have you here Davi & keep the photos coming

[Hammer]

Welcome Davi!

[stygiana]

Bem-vindo ao Palmtalk, Davi.

Thank you for your photos, you have an impressive collection, and with such a climate, you can apparently grow a wide range of species, from temperate to tropical. Of course, some might be difficult and borderline, but still, the possibilities are exciting, for sure!

Alberto is a of a great contribution and it's cool to see the differences between his place and yours. Brazil offers such an amazing panel, in terms of climate, soils, vegetation, etc.

And architecture too. Thanks Alberto for the video about the "Black Gold" town, Ouro Preto. It seems to be a magnificent place. Muito obrigado!

I hope you enjoy sharing with us, Davi, and I am so happy to see more folks from Brazil. May PalmTalk and the IPS become every time even more a global, rich and diversified community, for the benefit of all.

It's already well under way and I am most delighted to join the others to welcome you in this forum!

Please, keep posting.

[doranakandawatta]

BONJOUR Davi,

Nice to see you on Palmtalk; I loved your Euterpe edulis and seedlings photos.

All your pics are very interesting.

Thank you ; I look forward too the next pics.

Please, keep posting.

Since you have good photographs, post some pics on the "Shades of green" thread

[bgl]

Hello Davi,

Welcome to PalmTalk and great to have another member in Brazil! You have beautiful palms - looking forward to seeing more of your garden.

Aloha from Hawaii,

Bo-Göran

[DoomsDave]

Davi, your garden is wonderful.

More pictures of it, the nearby country and the town . . .

[DoomsDave]

Ouro Preto - UNESCO World Heritage Site

In this video you can see the "Itacolomi" stone in the first scene of the video showing the Historical city of Ouro Preto

You're baroque . . . .

When you're out of Monet

[sarasota alex]

Welcome to the forum Davi! Great palms!

[Gtlevine]

Nice to have you posting.

[Gonzer]

Very nice Davi! One of my favorite Tillandsias is from your parts...T. minasgeraisensis.

[Alberto]

Davi, you are a privileged person to have your "sítio" near Ouro Preto. It´s a a FANTASTIC place, The mountains,the colonial architecture, the culture,etc.Your climate will be good for so much palm species ! I´m envious!! Try Parajubaea sunkha!(BTW Are there Cocos nucifera growing in Ouro Preto?)

I have the best memories of Ouro Preto, a place that I´ll visit again !!!!

I found this pics on Internet. The Itacolomi stone at the horizon and the "projecting stones" where my friends Jackson, Henrique de Freitas and I also made a photo, I remember. The climate at the top was very cold !

https://www.google.com.br/search?q=itacolomi&biw=1366&bih=667&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=pv.xjs.s.en_US.MpiVkF51mpA.O&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=pt-BR&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=_KzxUYKeDpP_4AOSgIHoBA#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=jzwBCqexyT3huM%3A%3BP8OeSUapQWinSM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fperlbal.hi-pi.com%252Fblog-images%252F447291%252Fgd%252F129174306756%252FNO-ALTO-DO-PICO-ITACOLOMI.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fmmaximo.musicblog.com.br%252F344555%252FNO-ALTO-DO-PICO-ITACOLOMI%252F%3B640%3B480

[Alberto]

Davi,take a look how is my winter,,,,,

http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/37880-it-snowed-today-in-my-town/

[Jonathan]

Syagrus flexuosa:

beautiful

Just what I was thinking guiseppe!

I've got one tiny seedling of S. flexuosa and I'm struggling to keep it alive, not quite sure what it wants.

Love your place Davi, looks beatiful.

Cheers,

Jonathan

[Tassie_Troy1971]

Hi Davi

great pictures ,thanks for posting !

Troy

[Davi Aguiar]

Hi Wal:
Actually there are not very many palm species available here to buy, but there
are some native species not very far from here that I could try to get some
seeds as happened to many of those that I already have: Mauritia flexuosa,
Mauritiella(from a friend that went fishing in the west of the country), S.
flexuosa, Orbignya phalerata. I've three seeds of Syagrus glaucescens. So
far, the Chamaedoreas that I remember seeing available here are Chamaedorea elegans,
Chamaedorea metallica, and Chamaedorea seifrizii. I'm glad that you liked the
Euterpe because I'm going to post more photos of them!

Hi Gyuseppe: I think it is very beautiful too. I hope
someday I'll get a S. deflexa which seems to be very similar to S. flexuosa,
but more beautiful than it.

Hi
palmisland: Thank you for your welcome and I'll try to keep the photos coming!

Hi Hammer:
Thanks!

Hi Stygiana:
Thank you! I hope I'll be able to grow many palm species here. I'd say that I'm
already struggling to grow the Mauritia flexuosa and the Oenocarpus, but I
don't have any temperate species yet. I've already noticed that Alberto
contributes greatly, with many interesting posts. I do enjoy sharing ! Thanks.

Hi
Philippe: I'm glad that you enjoyed the
photos. I'll post more pictures of Euterpe edulis and the seedlings nursing
area. I've posted a picture in "Shades of green".

Hi
Bo-Göran: Thanks!

Hi
DoomsDave! Thank you! I'll post pictures of the nearby country then. Sorry, but
I did not find where I've put the pictures I have from Ouro Preto.

Hi
DoomsDave: It took me some research to find out what you meant. Nice!

Hi sarasota
alex: Thanks

Hi Gtlevine:
Thanks

Hi Gonzer: Thanks. I'm not sure I've seen that
Tillandsia, but I've seen something similar to the west of the state.

Oi Alberto:
Yeah I know , it's a very nice place. It's does not get too cold, like your
place, and at the same time not too hot, the landscape is also very nice. The towns
architecture is very beautiful, but it must be a pain for the town's dwellers,
with all those steep streets and streets that narrows down to barely fit a car.
Cocos nucifera do grow there, but don't
look as good as in warmer places. Needs sun though, I've planted a couple in
the shade and they died.

Hi
Jonathan! Thank you! S. flexuosa like full sun, I'll post a photo of some that
were planted in a shaded place and even though they are taller, they don't look
as nice.

Hi Troy!
Thanks for your comment!

Now the photos:

The seedlings nursing area:

The landscape around the farm(Sítio): you should be able to notice the Acrocamia aculeata:

A view at sun rise:

Another view:

More E. Edulis

Continue...

[Davi Aguiar]

Orchids

Wildlife: Which palms would attract more of them?

Lizard

Monkey

Blue bird (nesting in the drainage pipe)

[Davi Aguiar]

Hummingbird:

Yellow birds:

Green butterfly:

Hummingbird in Myrciaria cauliflora(Jabuticaba):

Continue...

[Davi Aguiar]

Squirrel
eating S. ramanzoffiana seed: (unfortunately they don't seem to eat E.
Edulis seed and sometimes they steal some seeds planted, even the
sprouted ones)

Black butterfly:

Siriemas(Cariama cristata)

Bird eating persimmon

Best regards!

Davi

[Kris]

warm welcome to you and thanks for the visuals..

love,

kris.

[Mauna Kea Cloudforest]

What an amazing climate and diversity of palms. 15-25C highs makes it very cool. I bet a lot of the things that grow there would do pretty well along Coastal California provided there is enough protection from frost. I heard from Ben in NZ that Euterpe Edulis actually grows at higher elevations in Brazil than even king palms. But you must be lower and warmer than Alberto.

I wonder if the pindaiba (Duguetia lanceolata) grows wild near you?

I tried to grow it here, but the seeds never germinated.

Ouro Preto is now on my "bucket list". Do you guys have some good capoeira schools down there?

[Alberto]

The yellow birds are canário da terra (Sicallis flaveola) and the blue/grey bid eating the persimon fruit is a "sanhaço" . Both I also see here in my garden. The "siriema" is also native here but I´ve never seen one at my place.

[Gonzer]

I keep coming back to this post, the photos are amazing!

[Alberto]

Davi, does it rain in the winter in your region ? I know Belo Horizonte is dry.

[Davi Aguiar]

Hi Axel: I think Euterpe edulis might grow wild for Alberto(who lives about the same height
as me, but far southern, so a lot colder, for us). I think pindaiba could grow wild here, but I don't remember seeing them. Unfortunately I haven't heard of anygood capoeira school around here, sorry!

Hi Gonzer!
I'm glad that you are enjoying this post!

Hi Alberto!
It's good to know that we share some of our flora and fauna. It rains very
little in the winter there. In the actual city of Ouro Preto it rains a lot
more, because it is higher and the mountain chain there hinders some of the rain
from reaching the farm.

Alberto, do you see these at you place?

Penelope superciliaris

I think it is them that are spreading E. edulis around the farm. There are many 10cm seedlings many places!

[Alberto]

Yes I have a family of "jacús" in my forest

Euterpe edulis isn´t native herein my city but some years ago I found them growing at 850 m altitude in the county of "Reserva", Maybe a cold hardier strain...? I brought a lot of seeds from there and now I have them growing here and in the county of Tibagi at my father´s farm, at the side of the Iapó river, I hope they will survive here.