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Livistona saribus or something else?

Cindy Adair

By Cindy Adair
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Mauna Kea Cloudforest Grand Master

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The only two livistona that come to mind are saribus and benthamii, but the teeth don't look right for a saribus. Looks more like benthamii. Take a look at http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/92046/ to see the saribus teeth which are distinctively shark-tooth-like. Be forewarned, Dave's Garden is really a slug when it comes to loading pages.

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Mauna Kea Cloudforest Grand Master

Mauna Kea Cloudforest

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Take a look at this:

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Those are the only two palms I have any direct experience with that look similar. Now you got me super curious, someone surely has the answer. I still think it's a livistona.

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_Keith Grand Master

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Not saribus, may be a hybrid of, but not pure.

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Daryl Grand Master

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Looks like L.saribus to me as well.

Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough!

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_Keith Grand Master

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This is my L. saribus, looks similar, but not the same to me, particularly the armament.

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Pedro 65 Grand Master

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The Leaf detail and "Big Spines" on Cindy's and Keith's are "Easy Giveaways" they are 100% both Saribus saribus ( was Livistona) which varies in stem colour.

Check out how big the spines get, great colourful stems too, leaves can be tatty with too much wind though. Pete :)

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_Keith Grand Master

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The Leaf detail and "Big Spines" on Cindy's and Keith's are "Easy Giveaways" they are 100% both Saribus saribus ( was Livistona) which varies in stem colour.

Check out how big the spines get, great colourful stems too, leaves can be tatty with too much wind though. Pete :)

Yep, mine stays tatty from too much wind.

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Cindy Adair Grand Master

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Thanks folks! When I finally checked out Palmpedia's great photos along with the lovely ones on this thread, I can see the answer is clear. I should learn to head straight to Palmpedia when my palm books aren't clear.

However, I thought from this thread that Livistona got to keep saribus?

ww.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/30278-new-genus-saribus-is-resurrected/

Cindy Adair

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Pedro 65 Grand Master

Pedro 65

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Thanks folks! When I finally checked out Palmpedia's great photos along with the lovely ones on this thread, I can see the answer is clear. I should learn to head straight to Palmpedia when my palm books aren't clear.

However, I thought from this thread that Livistona got to keep saribus?

ww.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/30278-new-genus-saribus-is-resurrected/

:) Yeh thats true Cindy, I though it was 1 of the Livs that went Saribus simply because its L saribus :)

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Daryl Grand Master

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Yep, still a Livistona (Blue fruit) and many decades ago the one with the reddish petioles used to be called Livistona hogendorpii

Spines on mine...

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Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough!

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edbrown_III Grand Master

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I got the two variations in my yard and lots of volunteers of the green form -- I guess in a few years when the red one flowers I will be able to see if there is any difference in the seeds.

The green form here survived the 1989 freeze (16F) but hte green form was hurt by a much lesser cold snap( a few years after 1999) so there is a difference in hardiness -- not that this is a problem in PR. Sure is a pretty palm -- I have a hundred or so voluteering all over the yard -- it makes it almost look jungly and Licuala like.

Thanks for sharing photos

Best regards

Ed

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