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Copernicia Pictures

Ken Johnson

By Ken Johnson
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avanza Proficient

avanza

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OMG Ken, i quess that is silver Copernicia Baileyana. :-D

Ken Johnson Grand Master

Ken Johnson

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OMG Ken, i quess that is silver Copernicia Baileyana. :-D

The first one is a gigas, the sun made it look more silver than it is.

The second is hospita. A member here will have it in her yard next week!

The third is a silver form of a baily looking palm. Kind of vague in the name but that is how these palms are. Lots of promiscuity in this genus.

I DIG PALMS

Call me anytime to chat about transplanting palms.

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Peter Pacific Mentor

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Wow, Ken, Copernicias make me weak in the knees! Beautiful.

Peter

Peter

hot and humid, short rainy season May through October, 14* latitude, 90* longitude

sonoranfans Grand Master

sonoranfans

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Dang Ken,

Really love your copernicias!!! Wish I was in florida.... Is that silver bailey still in the ground? You are killing me...

Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

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Al in Kona Grand Master

Al in Kona

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Ken I always heard that it was very difficult to move large size Copernicias like you are showing in these pics. Apparently they must move ok if you know how to do it. What's the secret?

Hawaii Island (Big Island), leeward coast, 19 degrees N. latitude, south Kona mauka at approx. 380m (1,250 ft.) and about 1.6 km (1-mile) upslope from ocean.

 

No record of a hurricane passing over this island (yet!).  

Summer maximum rainfall - variable averaging 900-1150mm (35-45") - Perfect drainage on black volcanic rocky soil.  

Nice sunsets!

virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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Al, with the proper root pruning procedure, anything can be moved successfully.

sonoranfans Grand Master

sonoranfans

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ken pruned and planted this fallaense type palm for me two years ago. Its puting out 7-8 new fronds per year. thanks ken for the great deal, expertise and advice!

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Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

Tom Blank

Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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And without root pruning..... :winkie:

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Mandrew968 Grand Master

Mandrew968

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Al, with the proper root pruning procedure, anything can be moved successfully.

Except lodoicea--or at least until it's done successfully!

virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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Even Lodoicea can be moved if done right.

Mandrew968 Grand Master

Mandrew968

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Even Lodoicea can be moved if done right.

Example? Anecdote? The world can be lifted with a big enough crane...

virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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And without root pruning..... :winkie:

Funny you should say that, Jeff. We relocated the entire Bailey Palm Grove at TREC in Homestead without any root pruning (they couldn't wait for root pruning to begin construction of their new greenhouse). The only one that didn't survive the transplant was the smallest one--which also was the least healthy prior to the move because it was shaded by a huge floss silk tree (which we also moved). The other 10 Baileys are doing great in their new location 2-1/2 years later. Here are some before and after photos.

BEFORE

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virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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Even Lodoicea can be moved if done right.

Example? Anecdote? The world can be lifted with a big enough crane...

No examples. No anecdotes. It can be done if done right.

sonoranfans Grand Master

sonoranfans

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And without root pruning..... :winkie:

Funny you should say that, Jeff. We relocated the entire Bailey Palm Grove at TREC in Homestead without any root pruning (they couldn't wait for root pruning to begin construction of their new greenhouse). The only one that didn't survive the transplant was the smallest one--which also was the least healthy prior to the move because it was shaded by a huge floss silk tree (which we also moved). The other 10 Baileys are doing great in their new location 2-1/2 years later. Here are some before and after photos.

BEFORE

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AFTER

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they look considerably less happy in the after pics. The before pics have lots of leaves and tight upright crowns the after are open crowns and a number of leaves below horizontal. these transplants are also mostly with several feet of clear trunk. Great job to keep them alive, Im sure, but if I saw the before and after I would be disappointed. I guess they need a few years to recover fully.

Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

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avanza

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I'm agreed with sonoranfans :-D

The old location is awesome very beautiful.

virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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I agree as well. However, they couldn't stay where they were, and the new location is where they wanted them planted. The fewer leaves in the "after" photo is simply the result of trimming them up prior to relocating. The palms themselves now appear just as nice as they did prior to the relocate.

The point I was trying to make is that few Bailey palms have been successfully relocated without root pruning. In this particular case, all of the roots of each palm were contained in the original holes that were augered into the oolite rock when they were planted. We simply chipped out a rock rootball that was larger than the dimensions of the augered hole. No root pruning was necessary.

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Totally drooling over these photos. I am trying to figure out which palms I want to place in my yard to really make a statement. These would certainly make a HUGE statement. Thanks for the palm porn Ken!

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Ken Johnson Grand Master

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This is my son Conrad with the palm I just planted in Satellite Beach area. Copernicia hospita. This picture was taken in November 2012.

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I DIG PALMS

Call me anytime to chat about transplanting palms.

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Walter John Grand Master

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Beautiful palms those hospitas..

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

avanza Proficient

avanza

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Ken, Absolute Beautiful Beauty :greenthumb::yay:

virtualpalm Veteran

virtualpalm

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In a few years (decades?) it'll look like this:

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Danilopez89 Veteran

Danilopez89

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Those are some sweeeeet palms! I need like 20 of them in my front yard.

Danilopez89 Veteran

Danilopez89

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A guy here in the palm springs area has several different copernicias. I should ask him if I can post pictures of his palm trees here. His baileyana looked kind of yellowish, is it true there is a golden kind? I saw a post about that yesterday.

Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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Jody,

In good soil, 12-15 years top.

Not too sure about a golden form of bailyana. How about the golden egg?? :)

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Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Peter Pacific Mentor

Peter Pacific

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I have to move a very small macroglossa (it's been in the same spot for four or five years and it's only about 12 inches high)...can I dig it up or do I have to dig a half hole around it and leave it sit for a couple of months? There are three Syagrus sanconas taking over the Copernicia and I would like to move it to a space where there is more room.

Any suggestions?

Peter

hot and humid, short rainy season May through October, 14* latitude, 90* longitude

Mandrew968 Grand Master

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Jody,

In good soil, 12-15 years top.

Not too sure about a golden form of bailyana. How about the golden egg?? :)

I agree--there is no golden form(other than a cute way of saying the palm is sick) and the look of that palm holding onto so many boots makes me think it is not even a baileyana.

Danilopez89 Veteran

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Yeah... I guess someone was being sarcastic about their yellowish baileyana. Anyways the guy from Palm Desert tells me his baileyana always looks pretty beat up after every winter. His fallaense and hospita looked great. Can't remember the name of the other copernicia he is growing but it also looked perfect. Just his baileyana looked beat up, are they the least cold tolerant?

Palmdude Mentor

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Ken that Hospita grew pretty nicely in two years :) gorgeous palm! Lucky duckers in Satellite Beach!

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I remember almost running into that C. hospita pulling into Ken's driveway :)

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