sabal id help

[Maximus]

Saw this today and thought it was really nice so I'm curious what kind of sabal it is. Just looks a little different than others around to my untrained eye.

[Xenon]

Livistona chinensis

[Sabal Steve]

I agree with L. chinensis, if the petioles have spikes. Did the petioles (branches) have spikes?

[Maximus]

I saw no spikes on the petioles. It also seems to have a larger crown than the livistonia around town.

[Mauna Kea Cloudforest]

I don't see any spikes on the petioles either. The teeth on some livistona are almost hidden. I have a livistona languinosa that has petioles without thorns, but you can run your finger along the edge and feel some armament. It's hard to imagine that this would be a sabal.

[Stevetoad]

Looks very livistona to me too. Weird that it has no armor though. The dead flower spikes don't look right for sabal either from what I can see. Petioles are still throwing me off. I've never seen a thornless livistona but I still think its one.

The pic of the leaf sure looks sabal though. Think I'm going to flip flop and say its a weepy palmetto. The lack of thorns and bluish color are screaming sabal to much for me to ignore.

[Sabal Steve]

Well, the bluish tinge to the leaves is interesting, and even with the absence of thorns, it sure looks like a Chinese fan.

[_Keith]

Ya'll got me to go outside in the dark just to rub the rib on my L. chinensis frond. Smooth as it can be. Not a thorn to be felt.

[Stevetoad]

Ya'll got me to go outside in the dark just to rub the rib on my L. chinensis frond. Smooth as it can be. Not a thorn to be felt.

Dang. I've never seen one like that Keith. Well if axel and Keith have a slick livi then I'm flopping back to livistona. I sound like a politician now.

[Maximus]

Thank you for the input guys.