my palm seedlings collection

[ohad88]

Hey,

I new in hear and would like to share my palm seedlings collection.

I'm from Israel (please leave the politics outside), so if I have mistakes, I apologize in advanced.

In the center of israel, along the beach cities, we have a wonderful summer. it's pretty long (May to November) with temperatures of 26-32C (80-90 during the day) and 20-25 (28-77) during the night with 60-80% humidity. our winter is short, and have a lot of sunny day. last year we hade like 7 days of 10C (50F) and that it.

My first palm from seeds is Archontophoenix Alexandrae. I collected the seeds from the street and put them in an aquarium with low water level. I put the water heater on 30C. this way it was warm and humid inside. the seeds had germinated in 2 weeks. here they are after half a year:

I also have Wodyetia Bifurcata (foxtail palm). I soaked them in warm water for a week and them put them in closed palstic box on heating mat. after on week I got 80% germination.

Here they are after 4 monts:

I also have 3 areca catechu seedlings, finger crossed they gonna be dwarf form.

They are 2 months old:

Inside the house I built an "incubator". I made a box from wood, wrapped it in thick nylon and put two fluorescent lamps, for light and heat. I also put reversed Venta that works every 2 hours for 15 min, for fresh air. inside that "incubator" there is constant 30C and 70% humidity. this is how it looks like:

there I have,

Cyrtostachys Renda (lipstick palm)

Adonidia Merrillii (christmas palm)

Areca Vestiaria (Orange Crownshaft Palm)

and i also have Areca Trianda and Licuala Naumanii seedlings, but dont have enough space for photos..

so, what are you guys think? if you have some tips I'll be happy to hear!

Hope you enjoyed

[JT in Japan]

Hey,

I new in hear and would like to share my palm seedlings collection.

Looks good. I'm jealous of your germination rates. What potting medium do you use inside your warm containers?

JT

[ohad88]

Hey, thank you!

It's dirt mixed with vermiculite and perlite..

[Walter John]

Good work thanks fof sharing.

[palmislandRandy]

Great germination rate. Are your babies destined to be planted?

-Randy

[ohad88]

Great germination rate. Are your babies destined to be planted?

-Randy

yes.

probably next spring (March-April)

[doranakandawatta]

Hello Ohad,

Welcome on Palmtalk who is as neutral as Switzerland regarding politics (but the best cheese is here in Switzerland…)

Your babies are good looking, and I admire all this indoor work.
Where will you plant these tropical species in a ground?
Does your place have the climate they need?

If not, you and your palms are welcome in Doranakanda garden , we'll find a place…

Or send them to Hawaiii, they'll enjoy

Thank you for posting, looking forward to next pictures

Regards

Philippe

[ohad88]

Hey Philippe,

Thank you for you kind words!

Actually im gonna plant the king palm and the foxtail palm cuz I know for sure that they are alright here.

About the rest, I'm pretty sure they will be ok.. I will do it in steps and hope for the best

[Ken Johnson]

Hi and nice work. You have a great set up it looks like. I hope you will post here for years so we can see the progress! Thanks!

[Jeff Searle]

Yes, a great job your doing. I would love to see some pic's of maybe around your yard or surrounding areas of any landscapes.

[richnorm]

Great work, what are your climate stats for winter? Some of those are super tropical but perhaps you have a chance in the very south of your country on the coast.

[Mauna Kea Cloudforest]

I've been to Tel Aviv, I stayed in Herzliya, and it's really hot during the Summer, much hotter than beach cities in Southern California. I got to visit someone's tropical fruit garden. There was a 30 feet tall Inga ice cream bean tree there, so it's plenty mild in the Winter. Should be able to grow pretty much everything they can pull off in Southern California and even more.

There are always ways to rise above the politics. https://www.facebook.com/ArabsAndJews. May you grow your palms in peace.

[quaman58]

Welcome! Everything looks great. The 4 that I don't think can be grown outdoors in San Diego would be the Areca catechu & vestiaria, the Adonidias, & the Crytostachys. If you have warmer winter nighttime averages than we do (a good 10 degrees F.) you could possibly pull those off outdoors. The Areca trianda does grow here. I've never been to Israel; would love to someday.

Bret

[Al in Kona]

Thanks for sharing your growing palms from seeds. Looks like you are having success. Sounds like you are in a very nice mild climate in Israel, however, I have a feeling you may have trouble growing Cyrtostachys renda outside, as it is super tropical. I have heard people say it suffers or may die if the temperature drops below 40 to 45 degrees F. It's a beautiful palm but very sensitive to cold.

[ohad88]

Hi and nice work. You have a great set up it looks like. I hope you will post here for years so we can see the progress! Thanks!

Thank you! I hope too. it's really nice to share cuz here we have a lot of Washingtonia, date palm, sabal palm, canary palm, Queen Palm, king palm and here and there foxtail palm. so it's gonna be interesting to see something different..

Yes, a great job your doing. I would love to see some pic's of maybe around your yard or surrounding areas of any landscapes.

my garden is no ready yet, but I'll post some pics of the landscape aroung soon

Great work, what are your climate stats for winter? Some of those are super tropical but perhaps you have a chance in the very south of your country on the coast.

last winter, beside 7 night of 50F (they were not continuous) most of the night were like 55-60. during the day it's most of the time sunny and around 70's. I'm pretty south, I live in Holon. but here it's funny, during the summer it's hotter in the south, and during the winter it's colder over there..

I've been to Tel Aviv, I stayed in Herzliya, and it's really hot during the Summer, much hotter than beach cities in Southern California. I got to visit someone's tropical fruit garden. There was a 30 feet tall Inga ice cream bean tree there, so it's plenty mild in the Winter. Should be able to grow pretty much everything they can pull off in Southern California and even more.

There are always ways to rise above the politics. https://www.facebook.com/ArabsAndJews. May you grow your palms in peace.

I wish!!!

Welcome! Everything looks great. The 4 that I don't think can be grown outdoors in San Diego would be the Areca catechu & vestiaria, the Adonidias, & the Crytostachys. If you have warmer winter nighttime averages than we do (a good 10 degrees F.) you could possibly pull those off outdoors. The Areca trianda does grow here. I've never been to Israel; would love to someday.

Bret

(a good 10 degrees F.) you ment 10 degrees C? cuz this is the lowest its get here, around 10C (50F). those four i'm gonna try half in half out so we will see

and thank you all for your kind words

[ohad88]

BTW, can anyone tell me how can I get Areca Macrocalyx seeds? I'm looking for this palm and can't fint it.. anyone have a lead?

thanks!

[Cindy Adair]

Welcome to Palmtalk! Your seedlings look perfect and I will look forward to seeing their progress! Hard to beat the satisfaction of growing a tree from seed.

[Stelios]

Great job with these palms. I live in Paphos, Cyprus and we have very similar climate in the summer and winter lows. Keep us posted because it would be interesting to see how some of the very tropical ones grow there. I might try some of these here in Cyprus when I find them.

[Milos Srejic]

Nice collection you have there! Hope they'll be happy and healthy palms. It seems that C. Renda babies aren't doing well in those conditions. But I hope they will be ok.

And welcome to pt!

Regards,

Milos

[WestCoastGal]

Welcome Ohad. Your palms look like they have a good start growing.

My husband was there in December on business when we had some of the coldest winter weather in a while here, 32-23F, and I was buying frost cover for some of our plants then. I remember him saying it was occasionally overcast and rainy--sounded like typical winter days here we might have, and when he flew out that was when the front came through and it snowed in spots which made the press over here. Do you get snow at all where you are even for brief periods? I know the weather patterns have brought unexpected weather to many places these past few years. Here we will see some snow dustings on nearby mountains tops but for the most part being valley floor we seldom see it on the ground although the cold is felt. Evenings during winter can be in 50s to 30s typically. I would love to have palms like your lipstick and orange crush here in the ground. Without much canopy protection we've played it safe and planted many of cold hardys you've mentioned growing in your area.

Sounds like you have a nice collection of palm varieties you're growing right now. I hope you will continue to post and share pictures of them as time goes on.

[ohad88]

Welcome Ohad. Your palms look like they have a good start growing.

My husband was there in December on business when we had some of the coldest winter weather in a while here, 32-23F, and I was buying frost cover for some of our plants then. I remember him saying it was occasionally overcast and rainy--sounded like typical winter days here we might have, and when he flew out that was when the front came through and it snowed in spots which made the press over here. Do you get snow at all where you are even for brief periods? I know the weather patterns have brought unexpected weather to many places these past few years. Here we will see some snow dustings on nearby mountains tops but for the most part being valley floor we seldom see it on the ground although the cold is felt. Evenings during winter can be in 50s to 30s typically. I would love to have palms like your lipstick and orange crush here in the ground. Without much canopy protection we've played it safe and planted many of cold hardys you've mentioned growing in your area.

Sounds like you have a nice collection of palm varieties you're growing right now. I hope you will continue to post and share pictures of them as time goes on.

Hey,

where exactly was he?

last December was something crazy! we had a "storm" that happens in like 50 years.. here, in tel aviv, for 3 days the temperatures droped suddenly to 41-52F (which is not normal), and the days after it was 62F during the day and 35F during the night for like 2 days. I'm gonna protect them on such days.

about the snow. the last time that it's snows in Tel-Aviv was 1950. last year its snows (on December which is strange) on the hills (far north, jerusalem and far south). in the north it was a night of 8F which is a record haha

actually, it's just getting hotter each year. when I was a child, it's started to be cool during the holydays - October. today October is still very hot. the summer is getting longer.. maybe global warming IDK..

[Jonas]

Hi Ohad... Those seedlings look so great... The trouble about how to get room for all the palms when they grow up seems to a common situation for the palm talk users... We follow our heart, buy the seeds that we desire and after 12 months, when the wife asks what you are gonna do with the 250 assorted seedling when they get bigger, your only answer is that you will think about when times comes..

The lipstick babies look a little worried but the fact that you got them to germinate is pretty cool.. I live in the tropical part of Bolivia and have had very little luck with them...

Post some more pictures...!

regards from Rurrenabaque

Jonas

[WestCoastGal]

Welcome Ohad. Your palms look like they have a good start growing.

My husband was there in December on business when we had some of the coldest winter weather in a while here, 32-23F, and I was buying frost cover for some of our plants then. I remember him saying it was occasionally overcast and rainy--sounded like typical winter days here we might have, and when he flew out that was when the front came through and it snowed in spots which made the press over here. Do you get snow at all where you are even for brief periods? I know the weather patterns have brought unexpected weather to many places these past few years. Here we will see some snow dustings on nearby mountains tops but for the most part being valley floor we seldom see it on the ground although the cold is felt. Evenings during winter can be in 50s to 30s typically. I would love to have palms like your lipstick and orange crush here in the ground. Without much canopy protection we've played it safe and planted many of cold hardys you've mentioned growing in your area.

Sounds like you have a nice collection of palm varieties you're growing right now. I hope you will continue to post and share pictures of them as time goes on.

Hey,

where exactly was he?

last December was something crazy! we had a "storm" that happens in like 50 years.. here, in tel aviv, for 3 days the temperatures droped suddenly to 41-52F (which is not normal), and the days after it was 62F during the day and 35F during the night for like 2 days. I'm gonna protect them on such days.

about the snow. the last time that it's snows in Tel-Aviv was 1950. last year its snows (on December which is strange) on the hills (far north, jerusalem and far south). in the north it was a night of 8F which is a record haha

actually, it's just getting hotter each year. when I was a child, it's started to be cool during the holydays - October. today October is still very hot. the summer is getting longer.. maybe global warming IDK..

He was only there for about a week. Stayed at a hotel in Tel Aviv along the sea and they took taxis to the offices in northern Tel Aviv each day. Never got to see much more than parts of Tel Aviv. He did think to take a few photos of palms in the area for me. Would have loved to seen more, so any you post would be nice to see. BTW does Tel Aviv have a botanical garden?

Wow, hadn't snowed since 1950...that really was a freak snow storm for you guys. Our winter here last year was pretty mild actually (my garden with the flowering canna, sun patiens, birds of paradise looked great until December), very little rain however (not typical), and then we got hit with the very low temps for a few weeks. We're in an extreme drought now and the evenings/mornings with fog haven't been that frequent. We also use to have a lot of cloudy mornings. Your palms are fortunate to be getting the humidity from the sea. Are you far enough inland to avoid salty air?

[Taccadave]

Were do you get your seeds from? My germination rates on those that you are growing have been extremely low.

I used to have an incubator set up just like yours. Now its a indoor lean -to greenhouse

[DoomsDave]

Ohad!

Welcome to Palm Talk!

Great set up, sounds like you have a great climate.

Note my Private Message to you.

dave

[Funkthulhu]

Welcome to Palm Talk!

After seeing your photos I feel like I'm slacking...

[realarch]

Oh yeah, welcome to Palmtalk! Good job, you certainly don't mess around, your germination system is fantastic.

It will be nice to see regular updates.

Tim