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Fantasy Mule (Butia x Syagrus) Hybrids

Alicehunter2000

By Alicehunter2000
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Chris Chance Mentor

Chris Chance

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13 minutes ago, Matt N- Dallas said:

Pics from today- it really took off this year.

Thanks for the update! That is a beautiful hybrid! I'm looking to get one after seeing yours.

freakypalmguy Grand Master

freakypalmguy

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Wow, that really has taken off Matt, very nice. Thank you for posting the update.

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Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Chris Chance Mentor

Chris Chance

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I just received mine from Patric Schafer! 

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OC2Texaspalmlvr Grand Master

OC2Texaspalmlvr

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@Matt N- Dallas Your BxLyto Wedd is stunning. Definitely looks better then both its parents nice growing :greenthumb:

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CodyORB Veteran

CodyORB

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Syagrus kellyana (or really any of the “quarter coconuts” etc) and Butia odorata. Something quirky that should make it through 8b winters!

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Kellyana is the quarter coconut not schizohphylla
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CodyORB

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Oh and a Syagrus romanzoffiana x butia archeri/matogrossensis for the lolz :drool:

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freakypalmguy Grand Master

freakypalmguy

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17 hours ago, CodyORB said:

Oh and a Syagrus romanzoffiana x butia archeri/matogrossensis for the lolz :drool:

Yeah, this would be interesting, B. archeri X Queen, would it make mini mule?

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

CodyORB Veteran

CodyORB

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32 minutes ago, freakypalmguy said:

Yeah, this would be interesting, B. archeri X Queen, would it make mini mule?

Ha, it might turn out like the fun-sounding Phoenix canariensis x roebellenii! ^_^ I'd like one

 

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ExperimentalGrower Proficient

ExperimentalGrower

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On 11/20/2020 at 7:42 AM, Matt N- Dallas said:

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I really love this palm, and just put mine in the ground I got from Patrick S. earlier this year. It was a severely overgrown plant in a 5 gallon. So much so that there was barely any soil left in the root ball, just a mass of roots. Will post pics soon.

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OC2Texaspalmlvr Grand Master

OC2Texaspalmlvr

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On 6/9/2022 at 7:45 PM, ahosey01 said:

@Matt N- Dallas did this thing survive the freeze?

I thought I mber him saying he was able to protect it and it did survive. Not positive about that but hoping he sets me straight haha @Matt N- Dallas

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Scott W Mentor

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On 11/26/2020 at 3:16 PM, freakypalmguy said:

Yeah, this would be interesting, B. archeri X Queen, would it make mini mule?

This is becoming a reality, with Rich Lindberg here in Jacksonville about to put Queen pollen on his flowering Archeri.  He's posted pics in the FB hybrid palms group.

He's also pollinated B. Mattogrossensis with queen and a handful of seeds are developing from that one

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buffy Mentor

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Syagrus camplyospatha x Butia eriospatha, because, anything might happen. I have flowering S. camplyospatha if a competent hybridizer wants to try to make this happen. 

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Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F

Scott W Mentor

Scott W

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On 6/16/2022 at 11:03 AM, buffy said:

Syagrus camplyospatha x Butia eriospatha, because, anything might happen. I have flowering S. camplyospatha if a competent hybridizer wants to try to make this happen. 

I know Rich did some Campylospatha x romanzoffiana, and now he's letting the Campylospatha self pollinate each other.  Texas is a bit far for me...

freakypalmguy Grand Master

freakypalmguy

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On 6/15/2022 at 10:26 AM, Scott W said:

This is becoming a reality, with Rich Lindberg here in Jacksonville about to put Queen pollen on his flowering Archeri.  He's posted pics in the FB hybrid palms group.

He's also pollinated B. Mattogrossensis with queen and a handful of seeds are developing from that one

Excellent, I look forward to seeing the offspring, in a few years

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

VA Jeff Community Regular

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My ideal mule palm would be butia witeckii x a cold hardy romanzoffiana.  The pic below could be the mother (if I talk to the hotel owner).  I also have some baby Uruguay queens whose momma survived some cold spells in Georgia.  That way I could get extra hardiness plus weepy leaflets.  A nicer hardier version of howea.

 

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God bless America...

and everywhere else too.

Tropicdoc Veteran

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Jubaea x lytocaryum

deep green leaflets

no recurving fronds

medium trunk

weeping leaflets in a flat plane

 I’m sure it can be done, I just don’t have the palms or the expertise to do it

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rarepalmaddict Community Regular

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On 9/4/2014 at 5:02 PM, Alberto said:

Sorry, its a B. eriospatha x S. ruschiana ( not a S. rupicola)

Not too much to see yet, only a few blades of grass.

Would you have any viable  seeds of this cross B. eriospatha x S. ruschiana?

thanks.

RJ Grand Master

RJ

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1 hour ago, rarepalmaddict said:

Would you have any viable  seeds of this cross B. eriospatha x S. ruschiana?

thanks.

Shipping from Brazil is reportedly extremely challenging, and Alberto hasn’t been on PT for over a year.  

ExperimentalGrower Proficient

ExperimentalGrower

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22 minutes ago, RJ said:

Shipping from Brazil is reportedly extremely challenging, and Alberto hasn’t been on PT for over a year.  

That said, he’s active on the Facebook IPS group right now.

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rarepalmaddict Community Regular

rarepalmaddict

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What is his facebook link?

Thanks 

ChicagoPalma Mentor

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Syagrus romanzoffiana var. litoralis x  Butia eriospatha is what I'm wanting in the future, the most cold hardiest mule palm. Also would try to grow a parrot mule one day.

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rarepalmaddict Community Regular

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38 minutes ago, ChicagoPalma said:

Syagrus romanzoffiana var. litoralis x  Butia eriospatha is what I'm wanting in the future, the most cold hardiest mule palm. Also would try to grow a parrot mule one day.

Are you going to produce this hybrid ?

Little Tex Mentor

Little Tex

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58 minutes ago, rarepalmaddict said:

Are you going to produce this hybrid ?

I dont know how he would obtain viable pollen

Lucas

ChicagoPalma Mentor

ChicagoPalma

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38 minutes ago, Little Tex said:

I dont know how he would obtain viable pollen

People in poland grow butias and i know a couple who grow queen palm

ExperimentalGrower Proficient

ExperimentalGrower

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5 hours ago, rarepalmaddict said:

What is his facebook link?

Thanks 

You’ll have to go here, join, then check for him or wait for his post.

 

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Little Tex Mentor

Little Tex

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1 hour ago, ChicagoPalma said:

People in poland grow butias and i know a couple who grow queen palm

ok but your not in poland, where are you going to find mature flowering palms?

Lucas

ChicagoPalma Mentor

ChicagoPalma

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was thinking of getting the pollen/seeds shipped but that not might be a good idea.

ChicagoPalma Mentor

ChicagoPalma

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3 minutes ago, ChicagoPalma said:

was thinking of getting the pollen/seeds shipped but that not might be a good idea.

nvm ill probably just tell my friends in poland to grow them there and then ship the seeds to me.

ChicagoPalma Mentor

ChicagoPalma

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Nvm, some european growers on palm talk have them, they are rumored to be cold hardy to 14 F or lower.

SeanK Grand Master

SeanK

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1 hour ago, ChicagoPalma said:

Nvm, some european growers on palm talk have them, they are rumored to be cold hardy to 14 F or lower.

Trade your car for an F150.

Then drive to Homestead whenever you get the itch.

Little Tex Mentor

Little Tex

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10 minutes ago, SeanK said:

Trade your car for an F150.

hes like 12

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Lucas

ChicagoPalma Mentor

ChicagoPalma

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1 hour ago, Little Tex said:

hes like 12

Who said pritzker put a law stopping us responsible 12 year olds for driving a car 😆

N8ALLRIGHT Proficient

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Steering back to the topic....

Syagrus sancona or coronata, something plumose, crossed with a very silvery blue odorata 

The silver fox mule

 

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ExperimentalGrower Proficient

ExperimentalGrower

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Update. After three years of in-ground growth. Syagrus weddeliana x Butia odorata. One of my fastest palms, keeping a close pace with my Queens. This started as a scraggly overgrown five gallon a few feet tall, summer of ‘21. Prevailing winds pushing the fronds this way.

 

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bruce Steele Collaborator

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Beautiful palm. What cold tolerance does it have?  Where I live in the Santa Ynez River it regularly ( most winters ) gets into the low twenties so it limits choices. Always looking for something hardy. Looks worth planting with some winter protection during freezes. 

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ExperimentalGrower

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7 minutes ago, bruce Steele said:

Beautiful palm. What cold tolerance does it have?  Where I live in the Santa Ynez River it regularly ( most winters ) gets into the low twenties so it limits choices. Always looking for something hardy. Looks worth planting with some winter protection during freezes. 

Hard to say, never been tested beyond upper 20’s which doesn’t phase it. If I had to estimate given its parentage I’d say maybe about 20F.

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BayAndroid Experienced

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On 7/8/2024 at 2:45 PM, ExperimentalGrower said:

Update. After three years of in-ground growth. Syagrus weddeliana x Butia odorata. One of my fastest palms, keeping a close pace with my Queens. This started as a scraggly overgrown five gallon a few feet tall, summer of ‘21. Prevailing winds pushing the fronds this way.

 

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This is a very attractive looking hybrid, where did you get this? 

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ExperimentalGrower

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1 hour ago, BayAndroid said:

This is a very attractive looking hybrid, where did you get this? 

Patrick Schafer up in Philo.

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BayAndroid

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Ahhh, that makes sense... 

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