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Now that my Copernicia cerifera and C. alba are getting larger I can see the subtle differences between the two. I know people often ask how to tell them apart, so maybe these pics will be helpful. I just cut about 40 lower fronds off so they're showing a bit of trunk now, which makes comparison easier to see.]

Here's the overall shot with their big brother Bismarckia on top, C. alba in middle, and C. cerifera on bottom.

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C. alba on left, C. cerifera on right

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Copernicia cerifera

Smaller, more numerous, leaf bases.

Thinner petioles.

Smaller spines.

Slightly smaller overall crown spread.

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Copernicia alba

Larger, less numerous leaf bases.

Wider petioles.

Larger spines.

Slightly larger overall crown spread.

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

As I'm viewing these pics it's apparent that it's not as easy to tell the differences as I experienced as I was handling all those fronds I cut off. But there's definitely a difference.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Great comparison pictures Matty. The growth rates you have going on are ridiculous. Great looking palms..

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

Posted

Good looking palms Matty, once again wish i had more room!

Posted

Those look fabulous! I prefer the cerifera, it looks prettier. But they're both nice. The only Copernicia I seem to be able to grow is bailayana. My prunifera is nearly dead and my alba hasn't moved much in a year. Even the alba in my greenhouse is not growing much.

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

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Posted

I don't think cerifera is a valid name. Matty, both palms look great. The alba I have has these crazy petiole swings in length, changing with the seasons. Weird palm how it seasonally blows up for me-does it do that where you live?

Posted

I thought cerifera and prunifera were synonymous. Is prunifera the valid name then?

Mandrew, I noticed that changing petiole length too. I thought it was due to the car port blocking the sun in the winter.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Oh, ok. I see--cerifera is a synonym for prunifera. Matty, didn't you have a thread on prunifera and alba differences? I seem to remember flower structure was the main difference that was concluded on... To me, they very much look alike. Makes me wonder if I have a prunifera or an alba, like it was sold to me as!

Posted

It's an older photo but you can see the dramatic petiole length discrepancy...

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