Waiting on Keith

[Tropicdoc]

No don't tell me. Ignorance is bliss.

[Moose]

Well didn't mean to bump this thread ... that is a lie, yes I did.

Keith's palms will be delivered in 7 days. Oh the holiday joy !!!

[Ken Johnson]

I put liquid fertilizer on the palms and have been eyeballing them every day thinking how I am going to fit them in a V.W. Golf with a weeks worth of luggage for two and Aliceshunter 2000's cycads too! Pictures of the packing job will follow. Look for them Christmas Day!

[Moose]

You got two days to get then holes dug Keith. I'm sure you have a holiday Honey Do list from the wife as well.

[Alicehunter2000]

I put liquid fertilizer on the palms and have been eyeballing them every day thinking how I am going to fit them in a V.W. Golf with a weeks worth of luggage for two and Aliceshunter 2000's cycads too! Pictures of the packing job will follow. Look for them Christmas Day!

That's easy Ken.....just don't pack any underwear. ....

[Ken Johnson]

I put liquid fertilizer on the palms and have been eyeballing them every day thinking how I am going to fit them in a V.W. Golf with a weeks worth of luggage for two and Aliceshunter 2000's cycads too! Pictures of the packing job will follow. Look for them Christmas Day!

That's easy Ken.....just don't pack any underwear. ....

Funny Alice.....Not. I will put you cycads in a box today. Want some ANTS?

[Ken Johnson]

The Sabals are ready.

[Ken Johnson]

Oops. New device....

[Moose]

Are you going Commando as Mr. Simms has suggested?

[Alicehunter2000]

Lol.....no ants and no pants.....Merry Christmas.........Moose that's the way we roll up North.....if it ain't necessary it don't get packed....lol.....I meant HO HO HO!

BTW....nice Sabal's

[Ken Johnson]

Sabals's packed.

[Alicehunter2000]

It looks like you have done that before.......be careful on your long haul drive.

[Josh-O]

It looks like you have done that before.......be careful on your long haul drive.

I would have to agree with your comment Alicehunter

[Moose]

Keith, Keith - update, photos ??? planted ???

[_Keith]

Rendevous tomorrow. Planting may be next week. It's been raining for days.

[_Keith]

Ken is loading Moose's palm donation to our garden into our car in New Orleans for their final leg home. Tomorrow we try to plant, but I suspect the soil are too wet with all of this rain. We shall see. And Moose shall forever have a place now in our garden. New contest, "What shall we name Moose's contributed Sabal causiarm.

[_Keith]

And like any good PRA there was fun, food, and camaraderie. Finally met a PT'er face to face with whom I have corresponded for nearly 8 years. To me, that is the best part of PT, relationships.

[_Keith]

Now, what to send Moose in thanks, or maybe even deliver myself in late January.

Pardon the dup pic. Seems to be an issue on PT and is tied to the post above. If I delete it, it goes away on both posts. Oh well. Did I mention the seafood? Incredible raw bar.

[_Keith]

Well, they got home. I opened them up so they could suck in some nice Gulf humidity. It was measuring 97% last night so I know they enjoyed it. Gonna try to get them in the ground tomorrow as the rains are supposed to hold off until Thursday. As you can see it is an ugly time of year. Algae and mildew starting to form. Winter weeds popping up. Perennials like that bed full of daylilies are mowed down, but not yet re-mulched. To allow drying, they won't be re-mulched until the winter rains start to back off. Lots of muddy right now. But hey, look at those palms. Things like that keep me going till spring gets here in about 6 more weeks.

[Moose]

Well, they got home. I opened them up so they could suck in some nice Gulf humidity. It was measuring 97% last night so I know they enjoyed it. Gonna try to get them in the ground tomorrow as the rains are supposed to hold off until Thursday. As you can see it is an ugly time of year. Algae and mildew starting to form. Winter weeds popping up. Perennials like that bed full of daylilies are mowed down, but not yet re-mulched. To allow drying, they won't be re-mulched until the winter rains start to back off. Lots of muddy right now. But hey, look at those palms. Things like that keep me going till spring gets here in about 6 more weeks.

Hmmm - will this be the last palmy project of 2014 or the first of 2015 ?

[Moose]

Don't worry about causiarum in the river parishes. I have two up in Natchez ten years in the ground from YuccaDo 1gal plants. Big, beautiful, carefree and never damaged by cold. Same of course for Mexicana. My experience under those climatic conditions is that they are slower than Mexicana, which are slower than Palmetto.

Curious if any one has tried Sabal uresana up your way ?

[_Keith]

Don't worry about causiarum in the river parishes. I have two up in Natchez ten years in the ground from YuccaDo 1gal plants. Big, beautiful, carefree and never damaged by cold. Same of course for Mexicana. My experience under those climatic conditions is that they are slower than Mexicana, which are slower than Palmetto.

Curious if any one has tried Sabal uresana up your way ?

Moose, not that I know of. With the exception of 2 or 3 individuals, and yes for real, just that few are exploratory with palms here.

Here is the S. causiarum today. Looking just fine. That spotting is not cold damage, but rain drops as we have very light rain falling. Even if cold damage shows up later on the fronds, those growing points were nice and cozy under soil level where it got nowhere near freezing.

[Jim in Los Altos]

Keith, are you warming up down there now? Those Sabal palms usually just laugh at cold. At least to a point of course. Your's looks happy.

[_Keith]

Keith, are you warming up down there now? Those Sabal palms usually just laugh at cold. At least to a point of course. Your's looks happy.

Jim, tonight it will be rainy and the projected low is 31. Hoping it will go above 32, which it very well may. No more freezes on the 10 day projections. Normally, winter here is over by first of Feb, maybe a frost or two. But 2010 and 2014 winters were anything but normal, so all bets are off for a while.

[_Keith]

Moose, here is the S. mexicana after the 24 degree freeze. It is a happy boy. Pretty sure it is not even aware there was a freeze.

[_Keith]

The S causiarum now has a new partner in the future. My mother's poodle, whose care I assumed when my Mom was no longer able too, passed away yesterday. She was an old girl that lived a good life. Today, I returned her to the earth next to the causiarum. The bed will be now be called "Lucy's Bed" and she will live on in this palm.

[Moose]

Keith - you can thank this palm for the ones that ended up in your acreage. The Sabal causarium and Sabal mexicana were in three gallon containers when I had just finished trimming off the lower fronds to my big guy. It was as far as I could reach up accessing the petioles without a ladder. For years I had to trek around this palm to get to the side yard. Finally being able to walk under was a long awaited blessing.

[Moose]

This palm was originally acquired as a Sabal causarium. Attending a South Florida Palm Society meeting with a presentation by Dr. Larry Noblick, it was determined that this was in fact a Sabal domingensis. The lack of the papery ligules at the base of the petioles and the inflorescence being branched to 4 orders were the determinant factor.

Just finished trimming off 16 fronds which required an 8 ft ladder.

[Moose]

When pruning at a height with no ladder requirement, it was decided that the Sabal mexicana and causarium would not ever get planted in Moose Land, There were places they could have been planted but it would have been many years before a trunk was realized, taking up a wide area in a garden lacking space. I really love the Sabals as orchids readily attach to there trunks.

Serious consideration was given about guerrilla planting across the street. That idea was nixed since at a small size, they could have been mistaken for the common native Sabal palmetto and removed. Its a rental property so there would be no control as to there survival and subject to the whim of whoever was living there.

It was during a chat with Keith that these palms were brought up. Since they were my "children", I wanted to send them off to a place where they would be loved. They were offered to Keith. Root bound, they were stepped up into 7 gallon containers and it was planned that Keith would pick them up when He attended the Biennel. That did not happen so as they started to get heavily rooted in the 7's, I decided to create this thread.

Thanks to Palm Talk, I can observe these palms development through there adoptive Dad. Thanks to Ken as the adoption agency facilitator, the children transported to their new home.

Thanks to this Sabal domingensis existence, Keith has these palms happily planted in his garden. Lucy has joined the circle of life providing nutrients to the causarium. Looking forward to seeing his Nannorrhopis ritchiana growing as well.

[Alicehunter2000]

Wow....yes you are right....no papery ligules.....these pictures now convince me that I indeed have S. causiarum and not domingensis.....thanks, great pics and story.