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Chamaedorea adscendens seeds?


Patrick

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Hello all,

I was wandering around the garden the other day and found these growing on my C. adscendens. A big suprise!

I don't have any males of this species around, but I do have a couple male C. glaucifolias nearby. Could these two have possibly cross-polinted each other? The seeds seem REALLY small so I am doubtful. Butt then I've never seen seeds from this species. Does this fruit size seem legitimate?

Thanks for the input

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Oakley, California

55 Miles E-NE of San Francisco, CA

Solid zone 9, I can expect at least one night in the mid to low twenties every year.

Hot, dry summers. Cold, wet winters.

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They look too small and I'm guessing there's actually no seed inside the fruit. Mine will do that sometimes if I have not pollinated them. Have you tried breaking one open?

Tom

Bowie, Maryland, USA - USDA z7a
hardiestpalms.com

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I agree, they look too small and would not be viable.

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

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Thanks Tom and Jeff! No I haven't opened any up. They did look small to me; never hurts to ask, eh?

Oakley, California

55 Miles E-NE of San Francisco, CA

Solid zone 9, I can expect at least one night in the mid to low twenties every year.

Hot, dry summers. Cold, wet winters.

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Only one way to find out. Eat em and if you get a Chamaedorea growing in your stomach then they were viable.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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I have a male C. adscendens in a pot in my living room, and it blooms every few months, in fact, a new inflorescence spike is beginning to emerge now.

If you ever want to try to produce some viable seeds, let me know and you can borrow him for a while...

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It appears to be a common thing with Chamaedorea adscendens not having fertile seeds. I have to hand pollinate mine

regards

colin

coastal north facing location

100klm south of Sydney

NSW

Australia

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It appears to be a common thing with Chamaedorea adscendens not having fertile seeds. I have to hand pollinate mine

regards

colin

Yes - a relatively easy process.

Btw, Colin, I now have seeds (fruits) on my C. klotzschiana palms that I grew from the seeds you sent. :)

Tom

Bowie, Maryland, USA - USDA z7a
hardiestpalms.com

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Thanks for the responses; Will, perhaps I could "borrow" some pollen from you this spring. I'm not sure how long it is viable for. I will have to read up. That is very generous of you, thanks!

Oakley, California

55 Miles E-NE of San Francisco, CA

Solid zone 9, I can expect at least one night in the mid to low twenties every year.

Hot, dry summers. Cold, wet winters.

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Some of the Chamadoreas have to be hand-pollinated, at least here in California. C. plumosa is one, I'm sure there are others.

Some that don't include C. radicalis, seifritzii, oblongata, and metallica.

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Chamaedorea adscendens will not hybridize with glaucifolia. Below is a list of species that it could theoretically have been pollinated by:

From Chamaedoropsis:

Anemophila
Benziei
Binderi
Brachyclada
Brachypoda
Carchensis
Castillo-Montii
Correae
Costaricana
Dammeriana
Deneversiana
Foveata
Fractiflexa
Fragrans
Frondosa
Guntheriana
Ibarrae
Incrustata
Keeleriorum
Lehmannii
Microphylla
Moliniana
Nubium
Oblongata
Pachecoana
Parvisecta
Piscifolia
Pittieri
Plumosa
Pochutlensis
Pumila
Pygmaea
Queroana
Recurvata
Rigida
Robertii
Rosibeliae
Scheryi
Seifrizii
Stenocarpa
Stricta
Subjectifolia
Tennerima
Tuerckheimii
Undulatifolia
Verecunda
Volcanensis
Vulgata
Woodsoniana

Grant
Long Beach, CA

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