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new planting (new twist on an standard)

Patrick

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Patrick

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Hi everyone

Here's a new queen I put in today. I sure hope it works out! We were trying to reproduce that effect you see so much on coco palms.

Anyone have any experience trying this?? Anything to look out for that I can anticipate? Thanks!! :)

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Oakley, California

55 Miles E-NE of San Francisco, CA

Solid zone 9, I can expect at least one night in the mid to low twenties every year.

Hot, dry summers. Cold, wet winters.

Patrick Veteran

Patrick

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Closeup view....

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Oakley, California

55 Miles E-NE of San Francisco, CA

Solid zone 9, I can expect at least one night in the mid to low twenties every year.

Hot, dry summers. Cold, wet winters.

Kathy Community Regular

Kathy

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Patrick, your yard is coming along quite nicely!  Cool pond --

I'm sure others will respond about the attemp at curving.  I'm curious too.  I think it would work if it was trunking.  Will it work if it is not yet trunking?

 San Francisco Bay Area, California

Zone 10a

Jim in Los Altos Grand Master

Jim in Los Altos

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Patrick, That queen is a bit too young and small to get a resonably good curve in its trunk. Yours will "correct" itself  quickly and you will see it growing vertically by this summer. I've planted many palms at angles for my clients and you really need at least a 25 gallon specimen to get much of an effect.

By the time yours has formed thick trunk you're hardly going to notice anything different than an upright planted one. Try a bigger one with some trunk next time.

Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

zone 10a/9b

sunset zone 16

300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground

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MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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I think Jim's right on with this one.  We've discussed this before and I've concluded that the only way to get the gradual lean is to have the specimine in a large pot and as the years go by slowly tip it over more and more as it's putting on trunk.  Then after seveal years of this, then you can put it in the ground for it's final turn upwards.  Otherwise you won't get a curve at all but rather an abrupt kink.  Palms are smart, they know which way is up and don't waste time seeking it.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

paulgila Grand Master

paulgila

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some folks could take a few tips from palms,i think :D

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

FRITO Grand Master

FRITO

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when hurricane wilma came through south florida many of my grandas palms got pushed over.  this queens palms is starting to curve upward, but only time will tell if it has a nice smooth curve.

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Luke

Tallahassee, FL - USDA zone 8b/9a

63" rain annually

January avg 65/40 - July avg 92/73

North Florida Palm Society - http://palmsociety.blogspot.com/

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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(pohonkelapa @ Mar. 19 2007,10:39)

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some folks could take a few tips from palms,i think :D

Wow, Paul that has some deep spiritual implications.  You been smokin' my weed?

Frito, I'm afraid your granny's palm will look more like this.  Which isn't bad in my opinion.

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

paulgila Grand Master

paulgila

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no,matt,its hidden too well.

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Yeah in my blood........what?

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

palmsrgreat Experienced

palmsrgreat

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(MattyB @ Mar. 19 2007,15:19)

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(pohonkelapa @ Mar. 19 2007,10:39)

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some folks could take a few tips from palms,i think :D

Wow, Paul that has some deep spiritual implications.  You been smokin' my weed?

Frito, I'm afraid your granny's palm will look more like this.  Which isn't bad in my opinion.

Matty you been holding out on me? I knew I should have been there with you and Paul at Denny's, scooping out those pygmies...

spockvr6 Grand Master

spockvr6

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Patrick-

I tried the same thing as you last year with a couple of Queens.  Suffice it to say that after few months of having to go adjust the stakes and the ropes pulling the palms over every 2-3 days to keep the palms growing out and not up, I gave up and let Mother Nature win :D  The two palms now look no differently than if they were planted straight up.

Larry 

Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b

Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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Patrick,

    Like Jim mentioned earlier, this palm is extreamly small and has no chance what so ever of getting a curve in the trunk. A palm has to have some "wood trunk" before you plant one on a angle. I did this over 15 years ago with a 10gallon royal palm. Laid it flat out over the pond. Well, today it's probably about 40' tall and straight as an arrow. You just have to start with something bigger.

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Patrick Veteran

Patrick

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thanks guys and gals for the info. Shucks.

In a perfect world there would be graceful arching palms everywhere and no pill bugs to eat all your seedlings :)

Oakley, California

55 Miles E-NE of San Francisco, CA

Solid zone 9, I can expect at least one night in the mid to low twenties every year.

Hot, dry summers. Cold, wet winters.

F Zipperbaum Contributor

F Zipperbaum

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Gonna get on board with everyone that this girl is gonna upright herself quickly.  

I like a few others have tipped a few palms.  One thing that I have found to be helpful is to put the palm in an area that has some shade and tip it in the direction of where the sun is coming from.  The palm will "reach for the sun and seems to get a nice bend as it grows to the light.  I have a few examples in my yard and I will try to post them over the weekend...

On the bay in Tampa...

10a,9b...

Elev.  10 ft

My current weather station....

palmsrgreat Experienced

palmsrgreat

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Got a picture of this one at a nursery yesterday.

Sorry for the quality its from my cell phone, but its a cool shot

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Kamipalms Proficient

Kamipalms

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You guys are all mad......Talk about a bunch of sour grapes.....

Patrick,

Construct a simple shade over your Queen with the foliage just hanging out in the sunshine.

Queens love sun and when under shade they will reach for the brightest light they can get. As your queen grows, keep moving the shade above and the queen will keep growing sideways , reaching for the sun.

A couple of years and it will have a nice curve in its trunk.

J.

Made the move to Mandurah - West Aust

Kamipalms,
Growing for the future


sebastian Enthusiast

sebastian

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I agree with J. id give this method a go as your best bet.

Sunshine Coast

Queensland

Australia

Subtropical climate

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