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Mystery palm - help identify

Al in Kona

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Al in Kona

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While at Ho`omaluhia yesterday I saw this palm which I was unable to identify.  This large palm caught my eye as being quite attractive, having very wide leaflets and big seeds.  Here are three pictures of it.  Any ideas guys, what do you think this palm might be?

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Hawaii Island (Big Island), leeward coast, 19 degrees N. latitude, south Kona mauka at approx. 380m (1,250 ft.) and about 1.6 km (1-mile) upslope from ocean.

 

No record of a hurricane passing over this island (yet!).  

Summer maximum rainfall - variable averaging 900-1150mm (35-45") - Perfect drainage on black volcanic rocky soil.  

Nice sunsets!

Al in Kona Grand Master

Al in Kona

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#2 pic

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Hawaii Island (Big Island), leeward coast, 19 degrees N. latitude, south Kona mauka at approx. 380m (1,250 ft.) and about 1.6 km (1-mile) upslope from ocean.

 

No record of a hurricane passing over this island (yet!).  

Summer maximum rainfall - variable averaging 900-1150mm (35-45") - Perfect drainage on black volcanic rocky soil.  

Nice sunsets!

Al in Kona Grand Master

Al in Kona

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#3 pic

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Hawaii Island (Big Island), leeward coast, 19 degrees N. latitude, south Kona mauka at approx. 380m (1,250 ft.) and about 1.6 km (1-mile) upslope from ocean.

 

No record of a hurricane passing over this island (yet!).  

Summer maximum rainfall - variable averaging 900-1150mm (35-45") - Perfect drainage on black volcanic rocky soil.  

Nice sunsets!

paulgila Grand Master

paulgila

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those droopy leaflets are similiar to euterpe sp.,but i'm curious to see what others have to say ???

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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I'll guess Orania sp., possibly sylvicola? ???

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

elHoagie Mentor

elHoagie

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Looks like a Calyptronoma to me...

Jack Sayers

East Los Angeles

growing cold tolerant palms halfway between the equator and the arctic circle...

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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(Andypalm @ Mar. 20 2007,10:53)

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Is not howea a  forsteriana?

Andy, I agree that it's overall habit looks like a Howea forsteriana but the seeds are a dead give away.  Howeas are borne on long unbranched flowers that hang below the leaves and the seeds themselves are ovoid (football shaped).

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

calyptrocalyx&licuala freck Mentor

calyptrocalyx&licuala freck

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:) Hi Matty B.

        Your on the ball,Orania 'sp' ,

Al , check out the seeds, see if they'll let you take some

pictures of seed thats being cleaned, Becareful

all parts of any Orania are very poisonous,

Get pictures by the way.

        Regards Mike.E.

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M.H.Edwards

"Living in the Tropic's

And loving it".............. smilie.gif

JD in the OC Veteran

JD in the OC

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Al,

It is Orania palindan, from the Phillipines.  Some say its the most cold hardy Orania?...

There is one at Fairchild too

JD

Don Little Experienced

Don Little

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Orania decipiens var montana,  It looks like the very same plant in the picture.  Check this out.

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Don_L    Rancho CUCAMONGA (yes it does exist) 40 min due east of Los Angeles

             USDA Zone 10a

July Averages: Hi 95F, Low 62F

Jan Averages: Hi 68F, Low 45F

calyptrocalyx&licuala freck Mentor

calyptrocalyx&licuala freck

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Don L

Thanks for sharing that with us, Great looking palm.

               Mike.E. :)

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M.H.Edwards

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And loving it".............. smilie.gif

Al in Kona Grand Master

Al in Kona

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Yes Don _L  thanks much for your help here.  It's now identified!  

Matty - You are on the ball being able to tell that it was an Orania!

Al in Kona

Hawaii Island (Big Island), leeward coast, 19 degrees N. latitude, south Kona mauka at approx. 380m (1,250 ft.) and about 1.6 km (1-mile) upslope from ocean.

 

No record of a hurricane passing over this island (yet!).  

Summer maximum rainfall - variable averaging 900-1150mm (35-45") - Perfect drainage on black volcanic rocky soil.  

Nice sunsets!

SubTropicRay Grand Master

SubTropicRay

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Orania palindan

Tampa, Interbay Peninsula, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10A

Bokeelia, Pine Island, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10B

Tyrone Grand Master

Tyrone

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(JD in the OC @ Mar. 20 2007,21:32)

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Al,

It is Orania palindan, from the Phillipines.  Some say its the most cold hardy Orania?...

There is one at Fairchild too

JD

How cold hardy??

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

Don Little Experienced

Don Little

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(Ray @ Tampa,Mar. 21 2007,07:50)

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Orania palindan

I'm not an Orania expert by any means but the photo from Dave's Garden was posted by Geoff Stein (Palmbob) as Orania decipiens var Montana and from comparing the two pictures and the surrounding plants, it looks to be two different photos of the same plant.

Don_L    Rancho CUCAMONGA (yes it does exist) 40 min due east of Los Angeles

             USDA Zone 10a

July Averages: Hi 95F, Low 62F

Jan Averages: Hi 68F, Low 45F

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