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Dypsis Weirdness

Kim

By Kim
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Kim Grand Master

Kim

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I noticed the spear on this Dypsis robusta looked strange, firstly because the leaflets were not present at the beginning of the petiole. Then I realized the "petiole" really looked like an unopened spear, completely round. Examining where the leaflets did finally emerge, I could see the single spear actually opened out to form two fronds. I've never observed this before -- is it normal? Or is it deformed?

It was difficult to photograph, hope you can see what I mean...

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

DoomsDave Grand Master

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Kim:

Sometimes palms produce wacky forked spears. I've had them appear in both fans and feathers, about a dozen species overall, particularly Dypsis ambositrae, plumosa and decipiens, particularly before the palm trunks right after it starts to do so.

It's freaky when you see it, but so far all the ones I've had have been "one off deals" that don't repeat.

Is that one in your place in Hawaii?

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Kim Grand Master

Kim

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Thanks, Dave. Yes, this is in Hawaii. The palm isn't yet trunking, and I was concerned it might be a symptom of some sort of weakness, expecially if it were to continue to open all spears this way.

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Gonzer Grand Master

Gonzer

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Probably caught a leaflet in it's zipper.

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Funkthulhu

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Probably caught a leaflet in it's zipper.

"Oh man! How'd you get the inflorescence above the petiole?" - There's Something About Dypsis

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"Ph'nglui mglw'napalma Funkthulhu R'Lincolnea wgah'palm fhtagn"
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bgl Grand Master

bgl

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Kim and I took a close look at that palm over the weekend and it's the weirdest thing - as if two new spears were fused together. But everything looks healthy and I have no doubt the palm is perfectly OK. I'm guessing the next new frond to open up will do so in a perfectly normal fashion. :)

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Kim Grand Master

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Maybe it's dividing!

That thought occurred to me, too. I doubt that will be the case with the D robusta, but thinking of Dypsis decipiens, the possibility for dividing larger palms is in the Dypsis DNA. Maybe that asserts itself randomly by producing these fused fronds? Who knows? It's the first time I've observed the "zipper effect".

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

LJG Grand Master

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Kim when I first saw the pic I thought it looked like it might be dividing. Never know with Dypsis right? I think the double Carlsmithii that Marcus had divided?

Here is my Bef that divided. Similar fusd leaf.

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Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Josh-O Grand Master

Josh-O

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Either way that D. Robust is already a monster and it still hasn't trunked. Great looking palm with lots of character :greenthumb: Way cool Kim. :)

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

DoomsDave Grand Master

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If it divides, I hope you don't amputate one of the trunks and just let it do its thing.

Waiting to see what happens among the Many Mysteries of Dypsis.

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