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I've had great success with the white " Texas Geiger" here in Daytona Beach .

It has endured for about 18-20 yrs . I know that the native Florida Geiger has been considered

to be too tender for our NE Fla typical winter lows .

I wonder if a Hybrid is possible, and might be a bit hardier ?

My Texas " Wild Olive / Geiger " , is about 18' and I've had a lot of folks stop by and ask about it.

Posted

Try Cordia lutea. It does great here in SoCal.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Posted

Bill,

Agree on Texas Olive's hardiness. Being planted a lot more around Sarasota lately. Also saw many of these around Phoenix when there a couple years ago.

As for a cross between this species and the native Florida species, can't see why it wouldn't be possible. Having specimens of both, will be attempting such a cross once my Orange Geiger seedlings reach flowering size.

While harder to come by, another species I have, Cordia parvifolia, has done well here thus far. Shrubbier than the "tree type" species, this native of Southern Arizona and Northern Mexico takes lots of heat/drought with ease but is noted to be difficult to propagate from seed. Cuttings are also a challenge. Supposedly is hardy down to at least the mid-lower 20's. Here are a couple pictures from last spring. Flowers like mad once the humidity/ afternoon storms kick in.

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-Nathan



Posted

2 other Cordia species that have grown well here at Leu Gardens is Cordia africana and C. superba.

Cordia africana grows 15-20ft tall and bears white flowers. It has larger leaves and is fast growing Ours is about 15ft tall and 3 years old from seed. It hasn't flowered yet. It is native from a wide region of African from South Africa up to Nigeria and Ethiopia and even into Yemen.

Cordia superba also bears white flowers. It grws 10-15ft and is from eastern Brazil.

Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

Posted

There are good sized Texas Geiger all over the Tampa Bay area. None were damaged in the "big" 2010 freeze. I suspect many larger specimens predate the 1980's.

Tampa, Interbay Peninsula, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10A

Bokeelia, Pine Island, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10B

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

That's a good-looking C, boissieri.

Agree with Eric. Cordia superba is typically a slightly larger tree with fans of pure white flowers. Slow-growing and difficult to find in the trade. Not sure about frost tolerance; I'd expect damage in the mid-low 20sF on young trees.

Cordia africana is a much larger tree in SoCal; 60-footer at Fullerton Arboretum. Smaller white flowers in rounded heads are prolific in spring, carpet the ground below each morning in season. Again, uncertain as to cold-hardiness, but I suspect it would take low 20sF once it gained some size.

SoCal and SoFla; zone varies by location.

'Home is where the heart suitcase is'...

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"If, as they say, there truly is no rest for the wicked, how can the Devil's workshop be filled with idle hands?"

  • 4 weeks later...
Posted

Cordia boissieri is a good tree even inland in Northern California. A friend planted it on his property in the Gold Country around 2000 feet elevation, where snow occasionally falls, and morning lows can dip easily into the 20s in the winter.

Jason Dewees

Inner Sunset District

San Francisco, California

Sunset zone 17

USDA zone 10a

21 inches / 530mm annual rainfall, mostly October to April

Humidity averages 60 to 85 percent year-round.

Summer: 67F/55F | 19C/12C

Winter: 56F/44F | 13C/6C

40-year extremes: 96F/26F | 35.5C/-3.8C

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