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Arenga engleri- fragrant and colorful inflorescences

Eric in Orlando

By Eric in Orlando
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The mature clumps of Arenga engleri have been putting out inflorescences this past month. They always flower in May and June. The flowers are extremely fragrant, especially in morning. It is a very sweet, tropical scent, kind of a peachy-mango. These inflorescences are really showy too with a bright orange color. This particular clump is huge, close to 15ft tall overall and easily as wide. We keep it trimmed up as it is next to a walkway. This clump was planted about 20 years ago along with another specimen not too far away. They have grown larger than most Arenga engleri I have seen and definitely bigger than other clumps here at Leu Gardens.

This palm should be used more in central and southern FL. I planted one last year next to my porch for the scent.

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Eric:

The plants you picture appear to be the tall-growing variety. They're relatively upright, with an overall airier crown. The short kind are really thick and dense, about 6 - 7 feet tall.

I have a number of tall and short types in my garden, blooming profusely judging by the fragrance. Not sure what pollinates them.

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The shorter kind is the form from the Ryukyu Islands. They are now their own species, Arenga ryukyuensis.

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The shorter kind is the form from the Ryukyu Islands. They are now their own species, Arenga ryukyuensis.

How short? Just wondering what I have.

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The shorter kind is the form from the Ryukyu Islands. They are now their own species, Arenga ryukyuensis.

How short? Just wondering what I have.

About 6 feet tall. They're the really dense ones I showed you in my garden.

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The shorter kind is the form from the Ryukyu Islands. They are now their own species, Arenga ryukyuensis.

How short? Just wondering what I have.

About 6 feet tall. They're the really dense ones I showed you in my garden.

Hmm, I wonder what I have. They have gotten burned back badly twice since I got them, so I am not aware of their true potential height yet. They have back to about 7 feet just a year and a half of the freeze from hell, which took them nearly to the ground. Mine are definitely much more cold hardy than others I have heard of if that is a further indicator.

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Arenga ryukyuensis is slighty hardier than Arenga engleri. Back in Dec. 1989, during the Big Freeze here in Orlando we had 2 nights drop to around 20F. Arenga ryukyuensis (then known as the shorter/Ryukyu Island form) had little or no damage. Arenga engleri (known as the bigger/Taiwan form) had serious foliage burn and some stems killed back.

One thing I see as I think there are hybrids between the 2 here in FL. There is also a form of Arenga engleri we are growing that was collected on Okinawa. So far it has grown larger than Arenga ryukyuensis but not as large as Taiwan Arenga engleri . It also has much more upright leaves.

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I think mine should be also of the Okinawa form. It resembles namely a lot the one in the Picture above!

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Very upright habit...

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That is absolutely beautiful, have never seen one in flower before.

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I agree with Rim

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Always look forward to seeing these in flower. Fragrance is on par with some Plumeria, imo. Knew the specimens at Kopsick were flowering when I could smell them from the parking lot.

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Thanks Eric, Ed

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Thanks Eric , awesome pics , superb colour , wish I could smell it .

Michael in palm paradise,

Tully, wet tropics in Australia, over 4 meters of rain every year.

Home of the Golden Gumboot, its over 8m high , our record annual rainfall.

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IMO, the "best" flowering Palm scent by far, even better than Areca triandra , good palms to plant close to your home for the erotic scent :)

Pete

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They hold up pretty well in extreme 9a conditions as well.....these can definately expand our pinnate palate in the cold north. Love them...even if they are slow.....nice to hear that they are showy in seed and have a great smell too.

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

Eric in Orlando Grand Master

Eric in Orlando

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The fragrance is strongest in the morning. When I get to work in the morning I can smell the scent far away from any of the palms. Later in the day the scent radius is much closer to where the palms are.

Eric

Orlando, FL

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Wow....that's pretty impressive!

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On 5/15/2015, 8:24:12, Silas_Sancona said:

Always look forward to seeing these in flower. Fragrance is on par with some Plumeria, imo. Knew the specimens at Kopsick were flowering when I could smell them from the parking lot.

 

On 5/19/2015, 5:57:46, Eric in Orlando said:

The fragrance is strongest in the morning.

I searched "fragrant" and most of what I came up with was in the non-palm tropical plant section, but Arenga engleri seems to be the most frequent palm that came up.  Ironically, it was my Arenga engleri that prompted me to search for other fragrant palms.  Eric, I notice the smell increases at dusk and through the morning.  Mine is planted on the edge of my "front yard", but I pass by it many times a day taking the dog for walks, going surfing in the early mornings, etc.  It is strong enough that I often smell it during the night because our master bedroom is on this side of the house.  Anyone with other fragrant palms to add to the list?

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