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T. martianus Khasia, Nepal and latisectus with bending petioles


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Some years I´m noticing that my Trachycarpus martianus Kasia Hills and T. martianus Nepal and specially T. latisectus shows the lower fronds with bended and broken petioles. This didn´t stop the growth. I don´t know if this is a normal behaviour or some disease or lack of nutrient? Some fronds are still very green when they bend, this is a reason I think it´s not normal....Have you seen this or something similar?

This is one of my Trachycarpus latisectus

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Trachycarpus martianus Nepal

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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From left to right : 2 T. matianus Khasia Hill and right a T. latisectus. Again this T. latisectus is more "affected"

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Alberto, I can't answer "why" the petioles are bending , but maybe because they are so long and its only happening to the "oldest", I'd simply cut them off and paint seal where you cut.

Also, I love using Bamboo leaves as mulch as it releases "Silica"which very much helps "strengthen" plants, if you don't have any Bamboo growing you can buy Silica in a bottle.

Pete

Posted

could be from lack of water??

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

Posted

They grow like that in their natural habitat so I think it's normal. I wouldn't cut them off until they turn brown or yellow. That way the stem absorbs all of the nutrients from the leaves first.

Los Angeles, CA and Myrtle Beach, SC.

Posted

I also agree with the comments above. In case of the adult trees it looks quite normal to me. Only in case of the non-adult T. martianus Nepal in #2 it doesn’t look "normal". Maybe you should give it some more water?

PS

Also my adult Acoelorrhape and Chamaerops had similar hanging leaves when they didn’t need them any more. But the kink in the petioles let me suspect that they all need some more (ground) water.

My photos at flickr: flickr.com/photos/palmeir/albums

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Alberto, I can't answer "why" the petioles are bending , but maybe because they are so long and its only happening to the "oldest", I'd simply cut them off and paint seal where you cut.

Also, I love using Bamboo leaves as mulch as it releases "Silica"which very much helps "strengthen" plants, if you don't have any Bamboo growing you can buy Silica in a bottle.

Pete

The Trachycarpus look very nice but unfortunately I can't help. With regard to the quoted comment, the bamboo leaves release silica when used as mulch? Isn't silica a common mineral in sand?

Woodville, FL

zone 8b

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Posted

I see this on T. martianus in California. I assumed water might be the cause, or that it was just the habit of the species.

Jason Dewees

Inner Sunset District

San Francisco, California

Sunset zone 17

USDA zone 10a

21 inches / 530mm annual rainfall, mostly October to April

Humidity averages 60 to 85 percent year-round.

Summer: 67F/55F | 19C/12C

Winter: 56F/44F | 13C/6C

40-year extremes: 96F/26F | 35.5C/-3.8C

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All three of mine do the same thing and, as soon as the drooping stems and lease yellow, I trim them off.

Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

zone 10a/9b

sunset zone 16

300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground

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Posted

Alberto, I can't answer "why" the petioles are bending , but maybe because they are so long and its only happening to the "oldest", I'd simply cut them off and paint seal where you cut.

Also, I love using Bamboo leaves as mulch as it releases "Silica"which very much helps "strengthen" plants, if you don't have any Bamboo growing you can buy Silica in a bottle.

Pete

The Trachycarpus look very nice but unfortunately I can't help. With regard to the quoted comment, the bamboo leaves release silica when used as mulch? Isn't silica a common mineral in sand?

The SiO2 in the state of the mineral quartz (as in sand) or most other silicates is not soluble for plants.

My photos at flickr: flickr.com/photos/palmeir/albums

Posted

The wind accelerates this look for my fortunai's. My deciduous trees in the backyard are not mature and I live up on a hill where the prevailing southerly winds whip the palms pretty bad, especially during intense storms. I leave them hang until they brown.

Posted

Thanks for all the replies! :)

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Posted (edited)

Ido not like the brown transverse stripe on some petioles! I suspect some peripheral rot in the crown. Petioles bend because their still unexposed bases rot prematurily...

Edited by Phoenikakias

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