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Dypsis heteromorpha seeds look wierd

MattyB

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MattyB Grand Master

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I wonder if Daryl's sp. 215 has this same sort of "beeerrroooop" shape to the seed?

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Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

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Who knew they had such an odd shape?  Those seeds look very healthy, hope you are able to get some good germination rates on those.  This palm is a solid grower and not very common here in SoCal.  Mine has been in the ground for a couple of years and is now acclimated to full sun and suckering like crazy.  Still only about three or four feet tall though.

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Nice picture Matty, they look like mini pears. Curious to see if they are identical to the "real" one described in POM.

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

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maybe I should cut one open to see if it's ruminate or ....ehh whatever the other term is

 

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Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

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9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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seed description matches perfectly.  even describes the deep-ruminate endosperm and "subequitorial depression" which I assume is referring to the "beerroooop" shape.  They really should use the proper terminology.

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Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

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sunnova...... stupid iphone

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Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

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9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Those are weird but awesome looking man! Congrats on reaching maturity! Now next step is time for same babies. :D

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They look like green hearing aids, for Leprocahns.

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"heteromorpha" is the femininum of Greek ετερόμορφος and means "another form" which means "weird". So it is not strange that the seeds look weird. :D

thats funny Pal..

 

I like how you pointed that out :) 

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Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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pant pant pant

licky licky

 

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Matty, that's a nice looking crop of seed. Mine has been fruiting for 4 or 5 years now and you'll find that many will germinate pretty easy and fast.

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and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

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Nice pics Matty...my 215 has different seeds to yours from the look of things...yours look like little green mangoes :mellow:

Here's some photos I took  a couple of months back...

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Matt, yours don't look ripe yet. Find an embryo in any?

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

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Josh-O Grand Master

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just out of curiosity, would Matt's change shape when they ripen? My guess is they would keep the same shape.

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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I would be surprise if the shape of the seed changes before it matures. Mine is holding fruit now also but look the shape that Daryl showed from his tree. I don't have an explanation. I do remember when collecting seed off of a species of Dypsis on one of my trips, the shape of the seed varied drastically. But that's a little different from the seed shape of all the seed on one tree compared to another tree of the same species.

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

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Jeff, since Dypsis heteromorpha are so variable would this explain the weird seed shape?

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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Matt, yours don't look ripe yet. Find an embryo in any?

Len, the one I cut open looked like it had an embryo.

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Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

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9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Tracy Grand Master

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On 10/9/2015 at 12:05 PM, MattyB said:

I wonder if Daryl's sp. 215 has this same sort of "beeerrroooop" shape to the seed?

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On 10/10/2015 at 9:10 AM, LJG said:

Matt, yours don't look ripe yet. Find an embryo in any?

If I remember right, Matty you told me these should be yellow when ripe when I asked you out in the water.  While mine did go from the green below to yellow, they are now more of this light brown color.  Did I leave them on too long?  I haven't tried cutting into any yet, just cleaned a few off and dropped them in a bucket to see if they were sinkers or floaters.  All were sinkers.  Did you have any success with any sprouting when harvested green?  Final note, mine do have the funky shape to them as well.

Anyone else who has experience with Dypsis heteromorpha seeds feel free to chime in.

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I was looking for an embryo, but don't see a head, arms or legs formed yet :unsure: ?  What do you see?

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