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Germination of Syagrus sancona

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Pip Grand Master

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I bought some Syagrus sancona seeds from RPS quite a few months ago now. I put them into baggies with seed raising media and placed them on my heat mat. A few sprouted very quickly, most still show no movement. Of the few that have sprouted one has withered while another looks to be making a first leaf. I had no idea Syagrus sancona is remote germinater. I'm not really sure what to do. Do I pot up the sprouts as they pop or leave them in the baggie and wait till the first true leaf to push up? Do I wait for the few that have popped to push that first leaf up pot them and the remaining seeds into a community pot now that consistent warm weather is here?

 

On a side note the 23 year old Syagrus romanzoffiana that I planted my parents yard that has been seeding for years finally has sprouts beneath it. I wasn't convinced that they are weedy in my climate perhaps they are just not to the same degree as Phoenix canariensis.

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Pal Meir Grand Master

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Could you post a pic of the most advanced seedling together with a measure? If possible it would be good if the kind or size of remote germination could be made visible. (Is it like Phoenix dactylifera?)

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Pal Meir Grand Master

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Referring to Fig. 11.3 in Henderson’s "Evolution … of Palms" (2002, p. 168) I would recommend treating the seedling very similarly like Ph. dactylifera or Ph. canariensis and plant it already in a sufficiently deep pot with mineral rich soil.

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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Hmm, interesting!

I'm surprised that any Syagrus would be a remote germinator.

In my limited experience, when you have such in a community pot, it's best to take them out, carefully, one by one as they germinate. If you don't, they grow, get tangled and become impossible to separate without breakage and loss. (Bizzies are very brittle at that stage. :( )

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Pal Meir Grand Master

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Hmm, interesting!

I'm surprised that any Syagrus would be a remote germinator.

I have made an artistic sketch of a Syagrus sancona seedling, using the photograph in Henderson 2002: :innocent:

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Pip Grand Master

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I'll take a few pics after I get home from University this evening. One week left of 2nd year woohoo!

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Oops big day haven't been near my sprouts. I got home to a parcel containing three Dypsis lanceolata seedlings so needed to soak them in seaweed extract and pot them up. 

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Pip Grand Master

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20151022_171741.thumb.jpg.09f9e3514109a9Looking into one of the baggies 

20151022_171841.thumb.jpg.c2026b989518e4One of the sprouts 

20151022_172159.thumb.jpg.e7bb3d89d40996The most advanced sprout showing 2nd plumule.

Pal Meir Grand Master

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I would plant these 2 seedlings already in separate pots. As it looks like Syagrus sancona seems to have only one plumule. (The photo in Henderson 2002 had no good resolution.) – Here your photo with my suggestion for the soil level:

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Pip Grand Master

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Thanks Pal. Guess I'll get potting this weekend. I have other species almost bursting out their baggies now.

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Once potted would you keep the Syagrus sancona on the heat mat until the eophyll can be seen? Or just place the pots straight out into the shade house?

Pal Meir Grand Master

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It seems that remote germinating Syagrus spp. have only one plumule: S. romanzoffiana, sancona, schizophylla like a Phoenix. On the other hand adjacent germinating spp. have 2 plumules like Cocos. Any other divergent observations? :huh:

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Josh-O Grand Master

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looking good Pip :) 

I have hundreds of fresh seed from my tree. They sprout on the ground with no love given..

 

a very easy grow IMO :) 

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Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

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Pip Grand Master

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Finally there is something emerging form the soil. It is only tiny but I'm happy.

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28 minutes ago, Pip said:

Finally there is something emerging form the soil. It is only tiny but I'm happy.

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Take good care of it, and it will grow and be wonderful!

Columbian Foxtail is a good name.

When you come visit, I'll show you mine, I've got two. Both trunking.

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