Arenga pinnata

[User00]

Arenga pinnata  final flower of the  tree 

 

 

Edited October 26, 2015 by User00

[User00]

Arenga pinnata  fruits 

[User00]

ID thses palms 

[doranakandawatta]

User00,

It seems you went to a nice place.

Last picture shows Areca guppyana, (actually correct name is now Areca novohibernica ( Kew)
I hope you got some plants of this species!

[Pal Meir]

The palm in pics 3&4 looks to me like a male Phoenix (reclinata?).

[Pal Meir]

… or Phoenix pusilla? Need pic of the whole tree (showing also the stem base).

[Phoenikakias]

Pal, what do you mean by 'pusilla'? It seems to have existed in the past some confusion about this name, now it is synonym to Phoenix zeylanica. Imo this specimen can not be zeylanica because it has very  evenly arranged pinnae. It has singly pointed leaflet tips (in contrast to bilobed) and thin, long yellow spines. Imo it has to be a form of Phoenix loureiroi...

Edited October 27, 2015 by Phoenikakias

[Pal Meir]

Pal, what do you mean by 'pusilla'? It seems to have existed in the past some confusion about this name, now it is synonym to Phoenix zeylanica. Imo this specimen can not be zeylanica because it has very  evenly arranged pinnae. It has singly pointed leaflet tips (in contrast to bilobed) and thin, long yellow spines. Imo it has to be a form of Phoenix loureiroi...

Ph. zeylanica is the older name for now valid Ph. pusilla (Henderson 2009). – Maybe it is not Ph. pusilla, I am not sure at all, but Phoenix loureiroi has different looking fronds and a much thicker trunk:

[Pal Meir]

No, it’s not Ph. pusilla/zeylanica. Perhaps a Ph. reclinata (or roebelenii) hybrid??? We need a photo of the whole tree.

[Phoenikakias]

You show pictures of a single habitat in order to identify a specimen as loureiroi or not, while it is known that Phoenix loureiroi is maybe the most polymorphic sp in the genus! You just have to see, if you have not seen it already, the picture of another loureiroi form in RPS... Saying that, I do not insist on the loureiroi identity but I pretty much doubt also about the validity of your method, no offence though

Edited October 27, 2015 by Phoenikakias

[doranakandawatta]

in january 2014:

 

in august 2014:

in december 2014:

in august 2015:

 

 

[Phoenikakias]

... and yes, maybe it is a reclinata!

[Pal Meir]

You show pictures of a single habitat in order to identify a specimen as loureiroi or not, while it is known that Phoenix loureiroi is maybe the most polymorphic sp in the genus! You just have to see, if you have not seen it already, the picture of another loureiroi form in RPS...

I presented only my own photo from natural habitat, knowing that there are many other forms. But in case of Ph. loureiroi I found also a lot of wrong labelings, especially in botanical gardens. E.g. many Ph. roebelenii (among others) were labeled as "Ph. loureirii" (sic).

[doranakandawatta]

... and yes, maybe it is a reclinata!

I am not sure but in Sri Lanka we don't have nurseries with a wide choice of rare species, but Peradeniya botanic garden has quite a big Phoenix collection, most of them older plants, fruiting.

So it can be a species from there. but more probably a indigenous species of Phoenix.

[User00]

… or Phoenix pusilla? Need pic of the whole tree (showing also the stem base).

[Pal Meir]

... and yes, maybe it is a reclinata!

I am not sure but in Sri Lanka we don't have nurseries with a wide choice of rare species, but Peradeniya botanic garden has quite a big Phoenix collection, most of them older plants, fruiting.

So it can be a species from there. but more probably a indigenous species of Phoenix.

I think also – and this was my first impression – that its habit looks like Ph. reclinata.

The only really indigenous Phoenix sp. in Sri Lanka is Ph. pusilla (= zeylanica). But in S India we have also Ph. loureiroi and Ph. sylvestris.

[doranakandawatta]

it seems that this Phoenix species is clumping ? isn't it?

[Pal Meir]

it seems that this Phoenix species is clumping ? isn't it?

All here discussed Ph. spp. can be solitary or clustered.