N. Florida cold hardy palms

[tank]

Some recent photos of some of the palms I have planted out here in north Florida.

Livistona australis

Trithrinax acanthocoma

Edited October 28, 2015 by tank

[tank]

Jub x butia

Jub x but x syagrus

But x parajub

Mule and Brahea clara

[Zeeth]

Neat! Do you have a Jubaea X Syagrus? 

 

It's interesting that all of the Butia x parajubae in Florida take after the Butia so much. 

[NorthFlpalmguy]

Awesome palms Tank!

[tank]

Butia yatay

 

 

[tank]

Neat! Do you have a Jubaea X Syagrus? 

 

It's interesting that all of the Butia x parajubae in Florida take after the Butia so much. 

I have a 5 gal I plan to plant in the spring.

[Brad Mondel]

You have very good taste in palms Tank. How old is the BxP? 

[Matthew92]

Wonderful planting spaces and such healthy specimens. I need to trial all these up here in the Panhandle.

[tank]

Brahae armata

[tank]

Acrocomia totai

Livistona muelleri

Livistona mariae

Parajubaea sunkha

 

Edited October 29, 2015 by tank

[tank]

Brahae clara

Little Bismarck 

Ceratozamia

Mules and cycas panzhihuaensis

[Matthew92]

What is the cycad in front of the Parajubaea sunkha?

[tank]

What is the cycad in front of the Parajubaea sunkha?

Macrozamia moorei

[tank]

You have very good taste in palms Tank. How old is the BxP? 

About 4 years old, I think..... Got it as a VERY small plant.

[mulungu]

Thanks for sharing these pics.  Beautiful garden!  What Butia species is in your But x Parajub cross?

[Frond of Palms]

Some recent photos of some of the palms I have planted out here in north Florida.

Livistona australis

Trithrinax acanthocoma

Hi Jason,

Nice seeing some of those palms again. Good luck with Trithrinax acanthocoma, did you grown it from seed? I had one that died from a fungal infection about a few months ago. I replaced it with that Waggy I got from you early in the season.

[Matthew92]

I've read most forums I could find on this site regarding A. totai's hardiness. From what I get, seems like the species is variable with the most hardy forms possibly tolerating 9a/8b (the fabled Dade City ones). I also saw a picture of a very mature tree in Gaineseville. What do you expect for yours there in zone 8b, and did you get a more hardy form?

[tank]

I've read most forums I could find on this site regarding A. totai's hardiness. From what I get, seems like the species is variable with the most hardy forms possibly tolerating 9a/8b (the fabled Dade City ones). I also saw a picture of a very mature tree in Gaineseville. What do you expect for yours there in zone 8b, and did you get a more hardy form?

My A. Totai is not very cold hardy.  Pretty much defoliates every winter and comes back like a champ in the spring.

[redbeard917]

Looks great. Have you had any issues with your Brahea claras? I think I've heard they're easier here than armata.

That Ceratozamia really is a beauty. Looks like it's still getting bigger, too, since the older leaves are smaller. I wonder if they're as long-lived as other cycad genera.

[tank]

Looks great. Have you had any issues with your Brahea claras? I think I've heard they're easier here than armata.

That Ceratozamia really is a beauty. Looks like it's still getting bigger, too, since the older leaves are smaller. I wonder if they're as long-lived as other cycad genera.

No problems with the Clara.  The ceratozamia is a "Palma sola" type, the leaves will continue to get larger, probably over 8'+.  Currently they are 5'.  Have no idea how long they live, probably longer than I will 

Edited October 29, 2015 by tank

[SailorBold]

Wowzer..   Lovely collection!

[Tom in Tucson]

Jub x butia

Jub x but x syagrus

But x parajub

Mule and Brahea clara

Jason, where did you get the J x B x Q? It looks almost exactly like my BJ x Q.

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 75, Lo 48

[tank]

Jub x butia

Jason, where did you get the J x B x Q? It looks almost exactly like my BJ x Q.

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 75, Lo 48

Jub x butia

 

Jub x but x syagrus

 

But x parajub

 

Mule and Brahea clara

Jason, where did you get the J x B x Q? It looks almost exactly like my BJ x Q.

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 75, Lo 48

From Tim Hopper.  Technically it is probably a ((JxB)xB)xS) as the Mom was a JxBxB.

[tank]

Thanks for sharing these pics.  Beautiful garden!  What Butia species is in your But x Parajub cross?

Not sure, assume that it was catarinensis (capitata) or eriospatha.  Whatever non yatay butia Patric in California uses as the mother of these hybrids.

Frond,

Sorry to hear about your plant.  Hopefully the T. wagneriensis will thrive.

I obtained a T. acanthocoma and a T. brasilliensis (lumped to the fomer) from a friend in Cali as 1 gal plants.  Haven't planted the brasilliensis out yet.

[Ben in Norcal]

Thanks for sharing these pics.  Beautiful garden!  What Butia species is in your But x Parajub cross?

Not sure, assume that it was catarinensis (capitata) or eriospatha.  Whatever non yatay butia Patric in California uses as the mother of these hybrids.

Pattric uses multiple, different, Butia for his BxP crosses.  I have a paraguayensis as well as a capitata/odorata cross from him.

[tank]

Thanks for sharing these pics.  Beautiful garden!  What Butia species is in your But x Parajub cross?

Not sure, assume that it was catarinensis (capitata) or eriospatha.  Whatever non yatay butia Patric in California uses as the mother of these hybrids.

Pattric uses multiple, different, Butia for his BxP crosses.  I have a paraguayensis as well as a capitata/odorata cross from him.

Looked up the email correspondence between Patric and I and there was no mention of the Butia species, listed only as "BxPJ".

[Ben in Norcal]

Thanks for sharing these pics.  Beautiful garden!  What Butia species is in your But x Parajub cross?

Not sure, assume that it was catarinensis (capitata) or eriospatha.  Whatever non yatay butia Patric in California uses as the mother of these hybrids.

Pattric uses multiple, different, Butia for his BxP crosses.  I have a paraguayensis as well as a capitata/odorata cross from him.

Looked up the email correspondence between Patric and I and there was no mention of the Butia species, listed only as "BxPJ".

Probably odorata then.  If it was paraguayensis I should think he would have been specific about that.  Interestingly, the latter has been far faster for me, and is quite a bit larger, which is odd given the mother plant's dwarf habit.

[tank]

Sabal bermudana

Sabal causiarum

Butia x Jubaea

[tank]

Trachycarpus wagneriensis

brahea hybrid

Edited November 2, 2015 by tank

[tank]

Mules and copernicia alba

mule and nannorrhops ritchiana arabica

Copernicia prunifera

Edited November 2, 2015 by tank

[Brad Mondel]

What are the coldest temps your hybrids have seen? They look awesome. 

[redbeard917]

Around here, I've observed Trachycarpus fortunei decline and die when planted in sand. What kind of soil are you T. wagnerianus growing in?

[Alicehunter2000]

Everything is looking great. Got many of the same things trialing up here. Glad to see your P. sunkha is doing ok....mine just sits there....maybe the cool nights will spur some growth.

[Sandy Loam]

Nice, Tank!  Things are growing fast.

Speaking of cold-hardy palms in northern Florida, can anyone identify the palm in the attached photo?  (Click to enlarge)  The photo was taken today in Tallahassee, practically the coldest city in northern Florida (in winter) -- even though it was almost 90 degrees Fahrenheit on this November day.

Whatever it is, this palm must be pretty cold-hardy.      

[8B palms]

Looks like a mule and another to the left of the main one also 

[redbeard917]

Where was the Tallahassee pic taken? Looks like FSU-style landscaping.

[tank]

What are the coldest temps your hybrids have seen? They look awesome. 

A few of the mules saw temps in the mid to upper teens F in 2010.  All of them lost their spears and took some leaf damage.  All recovered.  All the rest were planted out since then.  They have only seen lows into the mid to lower 20Fs so none have REALLY been tested.  Looking forward to a mild winter.....

[tank]

Around here, I've observed Trachycarpus fortunei decline and die when planted in sand. What kind of soil are you T. wagnerianus growing in?

Those two are in well drained sand but heavily mulched with pine bark, I have a couple growing in saturated, mucky soil and they seem to be happy as well.  I suppose mulching helps with the nematodes.

Sandy,

Thanks, I hope all of your plants enjoyed the wet summer.

Dave,

The sunkha seems to be happy and has been a steady grower all summer.  It is in a well drained raised planter.

Edited November 3, 2015 by tank

[Sandy Loam]

Where was the Tallahassee pic taken? Looks like FSU-style landscaping.

Yes, it was beside one of the frat houses near FSU. I am surprised that the larger palm in the middle is a mule palm.  I had already decided that the two smaller palms on either side must be mules, but the one in the middle is quite different from the usual mules.  The fronds were quite straight (not as curved as a butia odoratata), not feathery like a queen palm, and the trunk was quite fibrous.  The trunk also had no queen shape to it at all.  It may turn out to be one of those mule palms which are not very cold-hardy because they are not very butia-like.    

Back to Tank's palms -- I have a feeling that Tank's parajubaea sunkha is going to grow quickly because it already has.  The leaves are already splitting significantly.  I wish I knew what the secret was.  Mine just sits there and doesn't grow after at least three years.  Apparently some of you in the southeast are having the same experience as me.   

   

[tank]

Few more plants

arenga micrantha 

trachycarpus princeps