Chamaedorea ID

[sgvcns]

A friend collected seed off this palm in Colon province Panama at jess than 200m elevation.

I thought perhaps declinata but it doesn't look right.

Any more concrete suggestions

Steve

[Jeff Searle]

Based on your information, I would suggest it to be C. deckeriana. Nice pictures I must say.

[XYZ]

Steve:

I agree with Jeff. Throughout that area, deckeriana and allenii are often sympatric. They are easily separated when in flower and fruit, but I have found quite large simple leaf forms of allenii in Panama that can be troublesome to distinguish if they're not side by side.

FYI, I have gone from seed to next generation in deckeriana in ~three years. In my experience they are blazing fast growers when happy.

Fruit shown looks quite immature. Was there another infructescence?

J

[knell]

I was going to guess brachypoda but deckeriana makes more sense given the location.

Can we count out pinnatifrons?

[Jeff Searle]

C. pinnatifrons  generally holds more leaves( as many as 10 ) are pinnate, and rarely hold a bifid leaf.

[sgvcns]

J & J

Thanks for the reply. I did mean deckeriana ( too fixated on processing Vietnam seed that morning )  as I collected seed from this area some years ago and it is now a reliable fruiter.

Mine however looks to have a more toothed margin as shown but that could just be the angle of the photo in situ

Will be looking forward to getting the C pygmaea seed in the same package and pass these on

Cheers

Steve