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Brugmansia (Angel's Trumpet) in zone 8b/9a?

Sandy Loam

By Sandy Loam
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I just took this photo of my neighbour's Brugmansia (Angel's Trumpet) from over our shared fence. See attached (click to enlarge).  It's a terrible photo, but the tree is actually quite far from the fence and appears to be quite large.  It is as big as the structure that it was planted beside, and it is full of giant yellow blooms. 

I am not accustomed to seeing Angel's Trumpet growing in our town in northern Florida.  Is this normally a USDA zone 8b/9a plant? I tried planting a tiny one once, in December just before the start of "winter", but it died back to the ground after a few cold nights.  Perhaps there are more cold-hardy varieties that I was not aware of.  If there are Brugmansia which will grow back to the size of a giant tree (like my neighbour's) in spring, I would love to know what the name of the species is.

I know nothing about this plant, so I look forward to your comments.  This may be an easy grow down in the tropical zone of southern Florida, but I am surprised to see it up here so far north.  I have seen Brugmansia growing in New Orleans, but that is supposed to be a warmer zone than mine. 

Many thanks.   

 

 

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Ben in Norcal Grand Master

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I was asking about Brugmansia at my local nursery recently, and they said they tend to grow hardiness and retain more foliage as they gain size/get older.  I'm trying one here in my 9b zone as a result.  The other problem I have had with these is that the leaves can be devoured by insects in warmer weather, so I need to figure out how to deal with that too.

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

Really full garden Grand Master

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I grew these when I lived in Houston ,Texas. Smaller ones do freeze and do not usually come back.I kept mine in a pot for two years and then planted it out. The main trunk was about 3-4inches in diameter . It often got zapped by really cold weather ,but always bounced back in the Spring and bloomed profusely in the Fall. I had a white,yellow and pink one. The white seemed to have the most vigor.

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3 hours ago, Ben in Norcal said:

I was asking about Brugmansia at my local nursery recently, and they said they tend to grow hardiness and retain more foliage as they gain size/get older.  I'm trying one here in my 9b zone as a result.  The other problem I have had with these is that the leaves can be devoured by insects in warmer weather, so I need to figure out how to deal with that too.

I will be dividing a couple of large ones in the late winter/spring. The mother plants will be looking for a home. They are in pots now. Can you wait? I can get you one freesies....

John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer

"Its always exciting the first time you save the world. Its a real thrill!"

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Sandy Loam

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Absolutely. Thank you. I definitely can wait. Has that particular plant taken the cold well?  Thanks again. Also, how well do Brugmansia bloom in shade as opposed to sun, if at all?

 

Ben in Norcal Grand Master

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1 hour ago, John Case said:

I will be dividing a couple of large ones in the late winter/spring. The mother plants will be looking for a home. They are in pots now. Can you wait? I can get you one freesies....

Not sure if you were talking to me or Sandy, John, but if you have any going spare I will happily give a home!

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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1 hour ago, Ben in Norcal said:

Not sure if you were talking to me or Sandy, John, but if you have any going spare I will happily give a home!

You, amigo....both of these plants are pretty large and I know your preference for that!

JC

John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer

"Its always exciting the first time you save the world. Its a real thrill!"

Ben in Norcal Grand Master

Ben in Norcal

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9 minutes ago, John Case said:

You, amigo....both of these plants are pretty large and I know your preference for that!

JC

I'm all over that!  Just let me know when in spring.  Maybe by the end of summer I will have some B. lako for you in return.

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

John Case Grand Master

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Just now, Ben in Norcal said:

I'm all over that!  Just let me know when in spring.  Maybe by the end of summer I will have some B. lako for you in return.

Tremendous!

John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer

"Its always exciting the first time you save the world. Its a real thrill!"

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SHEP

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John, what color?  I am interested in one that is not white or yellow.  I have a peach colored one in a pot.  Cecile

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They grow like weeds in Nuwara Eliya mountains area (1800 m elevation) where it can be very cool.

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Yep, from what I've heard it is a perennial in zone 8, getting to large shrub size through the summer and fall. And that one is indeed chugging along just fine because we've had an unusually mild Nov-Dec so far with no freezes.

It was several weeks ago when there was that cold snap, but only got to about 36 degrees up here in the Panhandle- bananas still untouched.

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In Zone 9a, many years they freeze to the ground as this one did, and then we cut it down in summer again, but here it is in its blooming beauty.

 

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If I plant a Brugmansia and chop it off at about 4 feet/1 metre of trunk each winter after the blooms have fallen, will it regenerate back into a full-size tree by the following winter? I am in USDA zone 9a. 

Thanks to anyone who knows. I am considering buying one soon.

 

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1 hour ago, Sandy Loam said:

If I plant a Brugmansia and chop it off at about 4 feet/1 metre of trunk each winter after the blooms have fallen, will it regenerate back into a full-size tree by the following winter? I am in USDA zone 9a. 

Thanks to anyone who knows. I am considering buying one soon.

 

Don't consider it.. get a couple:D. Barring any possible cold damage, they should do fine for you, especially with some filtered afternoon shade. Grew like weeds back in San Jose (CA) and vaguely recall seeing nice specimens in gardens in cooler spots around town as a kid. Great plants, just keep any pets or children away from the flowers.. Quite toxic.

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6 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Don't consider it.. get a couple:D. Barring any possible cold damage, they should do fine for you, especially with some filtered afternoon shade. Grew like weeds back in San Jose (CA) and vaguely recall seeing nice specimens in gardens in cooler spots around town as a kid. Great plants, just keep any pets or children away from the flowers.. Quite toxic.

Hallucinogenic "loco weed" toxic . . .

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1 minute ago, DoomsDave said:

Hallucinogenic "loco weed" toxic . . .

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Thinking it is processed into a powder then blown in someone's face. Supposedly renders that person a Zombie who won't remember anything that happens to them. Then again, it is also used in Sea Sickness medications, or so i have read.

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3 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Thinking it is processed into a powder then blown in someone's face. Supposedly renders that person a Zombie who won't remember anything that happens to them. Then again, it is also used in Sea Sickness medications, or so i have read.

Strong medicine have strong effects . . .

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6 minutes ago, DoomsDave said:

Strong medicine have strong effects . . .

Very true.

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Yeah, I'd read about it causing very bad "trips" which have prompted suicides, etc. Scary.

So, if I chop it down to a stump each winter in, say, late January when the blooms are done, will it spring back to a full-size tree over the summer? (like a crepe myrtle or a hong kong orchid tree, for example)

 

 

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Quite toxic if ingested, as many other plants surrounding us.

Patricia

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