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what would you consider the rarest palm in your collection?


Josh-O

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what would you consider the rarest palm you have growing in your garden?

Given locality differences around the world this should be an interesting topic to discuss from zones 8b-11a

if you have any pictures please post them.

 

 

 

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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Mine Would be probably a Livistona Langinosa? I don't have a lot.  But that's changing cause of JOSH lol.   I will have a Raphia Farinifera in ground by end of the year!

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My Rarest Palms that are yet to go into ground are probably these. Although I am no expert on what is considered "rare" as I have been told that I should be planting more "Rare" stuff than what I am planting LoL. I am trying. 

 

Have not put into ground yet, but will eventually go into ground when I can get locations in garden worked out.

 I have 2 Sabal Miamiensis ( Been told this is controversial Palm/Topic)

I just got 4 total Kerriodoxa Elegans that are in the garage waiting to be planted when I can get the conditions right to plant

Lastly, I have 3 Chameyronia Houailou waiting to be planted as well. Maybe not "Rare" but rarest of this Species I believe.

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Licuala mattanensis 'mapu'. First pic is upon purchase in 4/15, second pic is last month. Little bugger is coming along nicely, need to get it in the ground.

 

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Rarest, meaning the fewest people have another--if any... Silver rigida or variegated fallaensis. They are a toss up, at this point.

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Syagrus insignis (Lytocaryum insigne) 1¾ year old, if really rare I don’t know, but my rarest in my since 2008 very limited "collection". During winter on a northern window sill with temps between 14° and 18°C. The diameter of the pots is 14.8 mm.

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I believe out of the 140 species of palms I have in my collection, my Cryosophila guagara is probably the rarest.

 

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Lived in Cape Coral, Miami, Orlando and St. Petersburg Florida.

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I used to have a Voanioala, but it met an untimely demise. 

 

There probably aren't too many people in Florida growing Pritchardia munroi though.

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Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

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Do hybrids count?  How many folks have a Butia paraguayensis x Queen?

Otherwise maybe it is my reverse Syagrus x Butia cross:

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Or maybe my JxS:

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Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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I don't know if theses are still considered rare, but here is one of my 3 Licuaua sallehana's.

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"If you need me, I'll be outside" -Randy Wiesner Palm Beach County, Florida Zone 10Bish

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In general, I think it really depends how to define "rare" and why.

In the ground in outside environment? Surviving for how long? One could get a tender one from Hawaii, stick it into ground and take pictures. It will be dead by January, but get another one in March, just like last year.

In the pot? Perhaps describe your greenhouse.

Rare in the wild? A species could be extinct in the wild, yet regularly sold in Home Depot.

Rare in cultivation? Abundant in the wild, but few have managed (or cared enough) to grow; could be finicky, ugly, or the habitat is still surrounded by cannibals.

Rare in your locale? A rare specimen in one locality is a weed in another.

Undescribed species? Dypsis what? Even Dransfield can't tell...

Variations? Some say it's a black stem, others say it's just a baronii... :mrlooney:

Hybrids? All bets are off on those, every one can be different. And see the two above.

Rare among friends? What length did you really go for the bragging rights.   :greenthumb:

 

Mine is probably this thing, 39F outside and it's opening a new red leaf. Rare in my locale but probably abundant in habitat, could also be a hybrid, undescribed, or who knows.

 

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Most of the palms I have would be considered rare in Malta as only a few common species are available & planted, but I would say my most rare palm would be my Jubutyagrus, which I can almost guarantee is the only one here...

Malta - USDA Zone 11a

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My hyophorbe amaricaulis is pretty rare I think. I keep cutting the flower spikes off because they're ugly. 

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"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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In terms of rareness in the wild: Pritchardtia munroi, supposedly only ONE left in teh wild. P. schautteri, only 8 left in the wild.

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2 hours ago, Stevetoad said:

My hyophorbe amaricaulis is pretty rare I think. I keep cutting the flower spikes off because they're ugly. 

Are you sure it is a genuine amaricaulis????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In wikipedia is considered  "the most gravely threatened species there is, in any kingdom". 

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2 minutes ago, Phoenikakias said:

Are you sure it is a genuine amaricaulis????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In wikipedia is considered  "the most gravely threatened species there is, in any kingdom". 

Steve obviously was kidding................I think.

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"If you need me, I'll be outside" -Randy Wiesner Palm Beach County, Florida Zone 10Bish

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Of course, after I have read the second sentence in his post^_^ Btw I also own a Paschalococos!

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Mine would probably be my Licuala mattenensis 'Mapu'. They've been in the ground a few years now but always struggle during hot dry periods.

Hydriastele (Drymophloeus) oliviformis is probably another one, rarely mentioned anywhere.

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4 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

In terms of rareness in the wild: Pritchardtia munroi, supposedly only ONE left in teh wild. P. schautteri, only 8 left in the wild.

Dave, probably true, but plants can be found with little trouble. The Glocks have a large P. schautteri seeding now down near Key West. And I think I still have a munroi or two in the greenhouse.

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

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8 hours ago, palmislandRandy said:

I don't know if theses are still considered rare, but here is one of my 3 Licuaua sallehana's.

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Those are pretty darn rare Randy, especially that size. Your friendship with Jeff Searle and Mike Harris has your rare meter off kilter.

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Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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My Chaemerops 'Douglas Mutant' is the rarest palm in my garden....I have been asked not to post its photo......

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John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer

"Its always exciting the first time you save the world. Its a real thrill!"

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6 hours ago, Stevetoad said:

My hyophorbe amaricaulis is pretty rare I think. I keep cutting the flower spikes off because they're ugly. 

Steve - sorry buddy, that's a Sabal minor.

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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It's hard to say what would constitute my rarest species planted out. Because I love the genus Licuala, some of the rarer species would be,

L. sallehana

L. beccariana

L. terengganuensis

L. merquensis.

Others I'm enjoying are,

Cryosophila nana

Cyrtostachys elegans X C. renda

Cyrtostachys elegans

Hydriastele selibicum

And I'm now very proud to say I have a new Double coconut seed BUT not viable. This almost counts, no?:)

 

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Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

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4 hours ago, Moose said:

Steve - sorry buddy, that's a Sabal minor.

Are those as rare. 

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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11 hours ago, Moose said:

Those are pretty darn rare Randy, especially that size. Your friendship with Jeff Searle and Mike Harris has your rare meter off kilter.

Randy from that shot, at least, it looks like an orbicularis(not saying it is). I killed my sallehana--or my soil did...

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I have a Neonicholsonia watsonii that I dug up from the Glock's garden in the Keys. It has not skipped a beat and is rooting out in a 7 gallon.  They (Glocks) still have one in the ground at that same property.

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20 hours ago, Stevetoad said:

My hyophorbe amaricaulis is pretty rare I think. I keep cutting the flower spikes off because they're ugly. 

Good one Steve. I almost spit up my coffee laughing.

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Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

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17 hours ago, Jeff Searle said:

Dave, probably true, but plants can be found with little trouble. The Glocks have a large P. schautteri seeding now down near Key West. And I think I still have a munroi or two in the greenhouse.

Which illustrates the conundrum of what is "rare" anyway?

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2 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

Which illustrates the conundrum of what is "rare" anyway?

Dave,

     The topic is...."rare in our collection". But right, what one has and considered "rare" to him and would be, would not necessarily be to the next collector. But hey, who cares were all having fun at it and enjoy showing our palms off to one another.

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

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