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Palms all look nice down here.... seeing as it was 87 degrees Christmas day they should be growing like bandits!

We may be in for it come Feb/March but as of right now we're really hoping for at least SOME cool weather (although the palms are enjoying the heat)

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With out a cold snap, not sure what is going to induce the mango bloom this year.

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Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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Is there any other palms with the coloration of Bismarck's?

Posted
28 minutes ago, KentiaPalm said:

Is there any other palms with the coloration of Bismarck's?

It depends.......Bizzies have a green form, so the answer is undoubtedly yes. However, the blue/white ones also hava a purple/red phase during the colds months on the small ones and on the newer leaves.......what color  are you looking for?

John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer

"Its always exciting the first time you save the world. Its a real thrill!"

Posted
On 1/2/2016, 5:05:02, Moose said:

With out a cold snap, not sure what is going to induce the mango bloom this year.

Funny you mentioned this Moose. Saw several local Mangoes in flower on the way home today. Weird thing is some trees only had flowers on the north facing sides of those trees.

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Something tells me no cold snap is required. The equatorial tropics produce this fruit by the gazillions. In fact the mangos currently at Publix down here are all coming out of Ecuador. 

Michael Norell

Rancho Mirage, California | 33°44' N 116°25' W | 287 ft | z10a | avg Jan 43/70F | Jul 78/108F avg | Weather Station KCARANCH310

previously Big Pine Key, Florida | 24°40' N 81°21' W | 4.5 ft. | z12a | Calcareous substrate | avg annual min. approx 52F | avg Jan 65/75F | Jul 83/90 | extreme min approx 41F

previously Natchez, Mississippi | 31°33' N 91°24' W | 220 ft.| z9a | Downtown/river-adjacent | Loess substrate | avg annual min. 23F | Jan 43/61F | Jul 73/93F | extreme min 2.5F (1899); previously Los Angeles, California (multiple locations)

Posted
1 hour ago, John Case said:

It depends.......Bizzies have a green form, so the answer is undoubtedly yes. However, the blue/white ones also hava a purple/red phase during the colds months on the small ones and on the newer leaves.......what color  are you looking for?

A blue grey variety . I wonder if theirs any greyish pinnate feathery types of palms

Posted
6 hours ago, mnorell said:

Something tells me no cold snap is required. The equatorial tropics produce this fruit by the gazillions. In fact the mangos currently at Publix down here are all coming out of Ecuador. 

Correct, in Tropical areas there is no "cold snap" to induce flowering in mangos. But in the tropics, mangos are notva seasonal happening. Two to three fruit sets a year are possible.

No the cold snap is not required. Thru observations on my trees, an early cold snap with warming trend afterwards usually finds the flowering 30 days after the snap. Last year we went so long without a cold front that the flowering started in February. Then a late front in mid March, induced a second flowering. The second flowering hardley set any fruit as the fruit production energies were being directed to the first fruits. There were a few last season fruits from the second flowering but they were undersized.

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Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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2 hours ago, Moose said:

Correct, in Tropical areas there is no "cold snap" to induce flowering in mangos. But in the tropics, mangos are notva seasonal happening. Two to three fruit sets a year are possible.

No the cold snap is not required. Thru observations on my trees, an early cold snap with warming trend afterwards usually finds the flowering 30 days after the snap. Last year we went so long without a cold front that the flowering started in February. Then a late front in mid March, induced a second flowering. The second flowering hardley set any fruit as the fruit production energies were being directed to the first fruits. There were a few last season fruits from the second flowering but they were undersized.

 

I was wondering why so few mango trees around Bradenton and Sarasota had fruit on them last summer. 

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Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

Posted

This must be a mango forum lol , wish we could grow some up here

Posted
18 hours ago, KentiaPalm said:

A blue grey variety . I wonder if theirs any greyish pinnate feathery types of palms

Good question...of the top of my head, I cannot think of a pinnate that is bluish in color....perhaps other can think of one.

John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer

"Its always exciting the first time you save the world. Its a real thrill!"

Posted
7 hours ago, KentiaPalm said:

This must be a mango forum lol , wish we could grow some up here

A. They are considered the King of Fruit in many peoples' opinion from around the world. It may be the most popular consumed fruit world wide.

B. They are a great canopy tree for the understory palms. Chamaedoreas, Kerriodoxa elegans, Licualas, Hydriastele dransfeldii and Chuniophoenix nana all luxuriate in the shade of my big mango tree.

C. Aroids, ferns, bromeliads and orchids are at home dwelling amongst the branches as well in the Moose Mango.

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

Posted
16 hours ago, Moose said:

Correct, in Tropical areas there is no "cold snap" to induce flowering in mangos. But in the tropics, mangos are notva seasonal happening. Two to three fruit sets a year are possible.

No the cold snap is not required. Thru observations on my trees, an early cold snap with warming trend afterwards usually finds the flowering 30 days after the snap. Last year we went so long without a cold front that the flowering started in February. Then a late front in mid March, induced a second flowering. The second flowering hardley set any fruit as the fruit production energies were being directed to the first fruits. There were a few last season fruits from the second flowering but they were undersized.

I think you hit the nail on the head with the mangoes growing outside the true tropics.  My Malikka Mango, started to flower in Jan. of 2015 as I recall, then got nipped by a chilly (30'sF but not freezing) prolonged cold snap, then  few weeks later, started to flower again, and again got hit with another chilly cold snap, then a few weeks later in Feb. started to flower for a third time, and this time it started to set about  50 little fruit, that eventually kept shedding until over the summer, my wife and I got 7 GREAT mature juicy and sweet, but with very little hairy fiber mangoes off of it.  The tree was only about 6ft. tall last year, and that was the first time we actually got fruit off of it, even though it tried to set some fruit the year before.  It has now been in the ground for about 2.5 years.  I even got one of the seeds to sprout, and just this evening sold the sprout to my neighbor.

As far as this turning into a Mango forum, they actually compliment palms quite well, especially in a well balanced tropical garden type setting.

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