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Cold Hardy Palm

Manda9712

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Manda9712 Rookie

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Hello, I am new to this forum and I would like to know what type o cold hardy palm would be best for planting in Somerville,AL? Any suggestions would be appreciated!!

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Josh-O Grand Master

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Hi Amanda,

I would consider a mule palm for your climate. It's a very strong and vigorous hybrid between a queen palm and Butia (pindo) palm

they look tropical and ave very cold sensitive.

Ericj has them for sale if you go to the for sale section here on palm talk. 

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Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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I was thinking maybe a Trachycarpus or Butia. Somerville is in the northern part of Alabama and I believe it's a zone 7a or 7b so I wonder how a Mule would do once it's too big to be protected, especially during the coldest winters. I even worry about how mine will do in Montgomery. 

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Manda9712 Rookie

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Ok cool, so far my best options would be a Butia palm and Mule palm! Thank y'all so much for the suggestions. I will do more research on these palms and let y'all know which ones I decided to plant in my yard.

Manda9712 Rookie

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Indeed that picture is a Canary Date Palm tree, I found that one online but so far their really expensive and I hope to find a better price for them.

NorthFlpalmguy Proficient

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Trachycarpus Fortunei or Rhapidophyllum hystrix. Probably the only two you wouldn't have to protect over winter.

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Josh-O Grand Master

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11 hours ago, NorthFlpalmguy said:

Trachycarpus Fortunei or Rhapidophyllum hystrix. Probably the only two you wouldn't have to protect over winter.

Rhapidophyllum hystrix. would be a great palm for that climate. 

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

Palm crazy Grand Master

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Rhapidophyllum hystrix. would be a great palm for that climate. 

And don’t forget the Sabal minors they would be the third hardiest palm for N.AL.  And, some of those S. minor varieties grow really big leaves. 

Welcome aboard Amanda. 

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Josh-O Grand Master

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2 minutes ago, Palm crazy said:

And don’t forget the Sabal minors they would be the third hardiest palm for N.AL.  And, some of those S. minor varieties grow really big leaves. 

Welcome aboard Amanda. 

:greenthumb::greenthumb: all great suggestions :) 

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

nitsua0895 Rising Star

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I also think Sabal Palmetto would do great. There's a lot of them in Montgomery and they were still green last year after it got down to 11F.

Bigfish Mentor

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Somerville, AL!?!?  Oh man... I did some work there last year.  Some of the areas along Nelson Hollow Rd., you better pray that your car doesn't break down, LMAO! I saw one house (actually a trailer) with plywood sheets nailed up to their trees with messages on them that read "KEEP OUT!  NO WARNING SHOT!" and "NOTHING HERE WORTH DYING FOR!"  

 

There are some nice Trachycarpus fortunei in nearby Decatur, and Rhapidophyllum as well as S. minor (as already mentioned) will do great there.  Sabal sp. 'Birmingham', S. sp. Louisiana, S. Tamaulipas, and even S. palmetto would be worth trying there also.  Butia and Mule Palms are VERY marginal there, and would require protection at least sometimes.

Manda9712 Rookie

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Wow, I have not been by Nelson Hollow Rd yet. You were probably around the ghetto there. Where in Decatur did you see the Trachycarpus Fortunei palms? 

Manda9712 Rookie

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Thank you Palm crazy, I have so far a lot of good tips on the cold hardy palms. Everyone have been very helpful and welcoming.

Bigfish Mentor

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2 hours ago, Manda9712 said:

Wow, I have not been by Nelson Hollow Rd yet. You were probably around the ghetto there. Where in Decatur did you see the Trachycarpus Fortunei palms? 

A few different areas.  Some in downtown, and some very tall ones in a rich neighborhood.  I took pictures on my old phone, which is now gone...but I may have posted them on Facebook...let me check and I'll see if I can find them for you.

Bigfish Mentor

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Keep in mind that these pictures were taken in May 2015, after a brutally cold winter.  One of those very tall Windmill Palms is dead.  Most winters, T. fortunei should look fine afterwards.  But a severe winter can kill them.  Needle Palms and Sabal minor are native just south of Birmingham, and will do just fine where you live.

Manda9712 Rookie

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Thank you so much Bigfish for sharing those pictures of the Windmill palms in Decatur, I found the second, fifth, and seventh pictures to be really cool and they looked very healthy!! I'm definitely going to get a Windmill palm for sure!!

TexasColdHardyPalms Grand Master

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Those are as mature as T.Fortunai gets, but one of them looks to have kicked the bucket.

Bigfish Mentor

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On 1/22/2016, 7:53:18, TexasColdHardyPalms said:

Those are as mature as T.Fortunai gets, but one of them looks to have kicked the bucket.

Yeah, she's a goner.  That was a cold winter they went through.

yabazid Community Regular

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sabal x brazoriensis, sabal birmingham, sabal uresana (maybe), and palmetto (all hardy trunking sabals that might work with your cold climate). Serenoa repens, Rhapidophyllum hystrix, sabal minor and varieties. Palm addiction is real. I know I repeated some of the suggested above, but those what I recommend.

Always starts after the first palm. Fair warning I hope

 

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So, your area is a 7b. I think the best options are sabals (Sabal 'Riverside' could be also an interesting option) and Trachycarpus takil (It's supposed to be the hardiest windmill palm). I dunno how wet is your area but talking about palms is talking about avoiding wetness on cold climates (general rule), so it's important to prepare well the soil to provide a good drainage.

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Manda9712 Rookie

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I know for sure that I'm going to start out with a Windmill palm first and I will try the other cold hardy palms like the different types of Sabal!! Especially the Sabal Riverside sounds really cool. Thank you yabazid and Sanips for the awesome ideas.

Alberto Grand Master

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Trachycarpus takil is prettier then T. fortunei and also cold hardier

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Alicehunter2000 Grand Master

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If you are trying to get a tropical look, palm tree companion plants such as bananas and various elephant ears can give you a lot of quick enjoyment for much of the year. Also think about magnolias and mimosas

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

Manda9712 Rookie

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I was actually thinking about buying a banana tree and I have a Mongolia tree in my yard already. I will look into the elephant ears and mimosas too. Thank you Alicehunter2000!! And I will compare the trachycarpus takil and fortunei. I might even get both to be honest, so thank you so much Alberto!!

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