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Nature's Original Washingtonia

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I live in San Diego and had a chance to visit the Anza Borrego desert state park that is about two hours drive east of here.  My brother and I ended up heading out to an area called Coyote Canyon.  This is one of the few areas in the park that has year around running water fed from springs in the mountains to the west.  The water in many parts of the canyon runs underneath the sand buts its presence is revealed by the presence of large patches of willow growth.  It is also home to the only native palm to California, the Washingtonia.  Here the Washingtonia is a hold out to a much wetter past for this desert region and it continues to survive only where water runs most of the year.  Thus it now is only found in arroyos and canyons.  Enjoy the following photos and I believe these to be Washingtonia filifera.

Bonita, California (San Diego)

Zone 10B

10 Year Low of 29 degrees

6 Miles from San Diego Bay

Mild winters, somewhat warm summers

10 Miles North of Mexico/USA Border

1 acre

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A picture of the palm grove in the distance.

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Bonita, California (San Diego)

Zone 10B

10 Year Low of 29 degrees

6 Miles from San Diego Bay

Mild winters, somewhat warm summers

10 Miles North of Mexico/USA Border

1 acre

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A closer look at a single specimen.

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Bonita, California (San Diego)

Zone 10B

10 Year Low of 29 degrees

6 Miles from San Diego Bay

Mild winters, somewhat warm summers

10 Miles North of Mexico/USA Border

1 acre

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A shot of my brother among the grove of trees.

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Bonita, California (San Diego)

Zone 10B

10 Year Low of 29 degrees

6 Miles from San Diego Bay

Mild winters, somewhat warm summers

10 Miles North of Mexico/USA Border

1 acre

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Another shot of the grove.

Bonita, California (San Diego)

Zone 10B

10 Year Low of 29 degrees

6 Miles from San Diego Bay

Mild winters, somewhat warm summers

10 Miles North of Mexico/USA Border

1 acre

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Try again as too big.

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Bonita, California (San Diego)

Zone 10B

10 Year Low of 29 degrees

6 Miles from San Diego Bay

Mild winters, somewhat warm summers

10 Miles North of Mexico/USA Border

1 acre

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More.  The sun starting to set.

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Bonita, California (San Diego)

Zone 10B

10 Year Low of 29 degrees

6 Miles from San Diego Bay

Mild winters, somewhat warm summers

10 Miles North of Mexico/USA Border

1 acre

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Wish I could have spent more time there.  The most famous area for these palm trees in Anza Borrego park is called "Palm Canyon" and that grove of palms gets a lot of visitors.  The ones here in Coyote Canyon are only accessible via four-wheel drive and with a several mile hike.

Patrick

Bonita, California (San Diego)

Zone 10B

10 Year Low of 29 degrees

6 Miles from San Diego Bay

Mild winters, somewhat warm summers

10 Miles North of Mexico/USA Border

1 acre

Kris Grand Master

Kris

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Dear Patrick  :)

those are some fentastic stills of the washy's.and it appears that they grow fine in loose sandy or porous predominant

soil conditions in the wild.

thanks for the stills,

Love,

Kris  :)

love conquers all..

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Zac in NC Veteran

Zac in NC

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Yes, they are indeed filiferas. I have seen them nearly wild, but I have seen robustas wild in Sonora Mexico. Thanks for the pics.

Zac

Zac  

Living to get back to Mexico

International Palm Society member since 2007

http://community.webshots.com/user/zacspics - My Webshots Gallery

SubTropicRay Grand Master

SubTropicRay

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Thanks for posting these photos.

Tampa, Interbay Peninsula, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10A

Bokeelia, Pine Island, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10B

JimR Proficient

JimR

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Isn't there still same question as to whether these are "native" or has that been resolved?

Jim Robinson

Growing in:

San Antonio, TX Z9a

Key Allegro, TX Z10a

FRITO Grand Master

FRITO

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NICE PHOTOS, THANKS FOR SHARING!

Luke

Tallahassee, FL - USDA zone 8b/9a

63" rain annually

January avg 65/40 - July avg 92/73

North Florida Palm Society - http://palmsociety.blogspot.com/

Scott Mentor

Scott

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Thanks for sharing the great pics! :)

I always enjoy seeing these in their native habitat. This is another place hopefully to visit one day.

Scott

San Fernando Valley, California

Sunset Climate Zone 18

deezpalms Grand Master

deezpalms

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Nice pictures Patrick. I love how fat the trunks on filifera's get!!

Dave Hughson

Carlsbad, Ca

1 mile from ocean

Zone 10b

Palm freaks are good peeps!!!!!

happ Grand Master

happ

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(JimR @ Apr. 10 2007,14:19)

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Isn't there still same question as to whether these are "native" or has that been resolved?

Jim

Curious about your question.  Since these palms are scattered in remote desert canyons from Palm Springs and across the Mexican border, I have always considered washingtonia filifera the native California palm.  I believe these oases were discovered by the Spanish explorers and were home for native American tribes.

Can you shed light on the question of their native origin?

Los Angeles/Pasadena

34° 10' N   118° 18' W

Elevation: 910'/278m

January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F

July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F

Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm

USDA 11/Sunset 23

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW

JimR Proficient

JimR

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Sorry.  I must have been thinking about the Death Valley SP Washy's or the ones in Nevada.

Jim Robinson

Growing in:

San Antonio, TX Z9a

Key Allegro, TX Z10a

Keith N Tampa (ex SoJax) Veteran

Keith N Tampa (ex SoJax)

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They are great palms.  I wish I could grow them here in NE Florida.  They just aren't happy here.

Land O Lakes FL, a suburb on the North Side of Tampa, FL

Summers are great, 90f/32c in the day & 70f/21c at night with plentiful rain & sun

Winters are subtropical with occasional frosts and freezes. Tropical cyclones happen.

We have a few Royal palms in the warm microclimates but Coconuts freeze.

I am a Kayaker, Hiker, Bicyclist, and amateur Photographer that loves the outdoors.  

BobbyinNY Veteran

BobbyinNY

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They are great palms.  I wish I could grow them here in NE Florida.  They just aren't happy here.

Keith,

I've seen washies in Northeast FL.... I saw a beautiful one in Downtown St. Augustine when I was there... I'll post a pic if I can find it.   Maybe they're just a little harder to grow or get hit by lightening when they get too tall

Bobby

Long Island, New York  Zone 7a (where most of the southern Floridians are originally from)

AVERAGE TEMPS

Summer Highs  : 85-90f/day,  68-75f / night

Winter Lows     : 38-45f/day,   25-35f / night

Extreme Low    : 10-20f/day,    0-10f / night   but VERY RARE

FRITO Grand Master

FRITO

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Bobby,

I think Keith was specifically speaking of W. filifera.  not washies as a group.  robustas and hybrid washys grow all over florida.  but pure filifera have a hard time in the real humid climate.

Luke

Tallahassee, FL - USDA zone 8b/9a

63" rain annually

January avg 65/40 - July avg 92/73

North Florida Palm Society - http://palmsociety.blogspot.com/

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BobbyinNY

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Bobby,

I think Keith was specifically speaking of W. filifera.  not washies as a group.  robustas and hybrid washys grow all over florida.  but pure filifera have a hard time in the real humid climate.

Oh, ok... yeah, maybe that's it then.... I guess they just love the dryness of Cali & the desert better

Bobby

Long Island, New York  Zone 7a (where most of the southern Floridians are originally from)

AVERAGE TEMPS

Summer Highs  : 85-90f/day,  68-75f / night

Winter Lows     : 38-45f/day,   25-35f / night

Extreme Low    : 10-20f/day,    0-10f / night   but VERY RARE

Exotic Life Grand Master

Exotic Life

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Hi,

Very nice pics from the Washingtonia's in habitat! I like them, thanks for sharing!

Robbin

Southwest

ron@springhammock Community Regular

ron@springhammock

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I remember visiting out that way years ago.  Walking in a grove of palms in the middle of the desert gave me a real sense of what the word "oasis" means.

Central Florida, 28.42N 81.18W, Elev. 14m

Zone 9b

Summers 33/22C, Winters 22/10C Record Low -7C

Rain 6cm - 17cm/month with wet summers 122cm annually

Zac in NC Veteran

Zac in NC

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(JimR @ Apr. 11 2007,18:17)

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Sorry.  I must have been thinking about the Death Valley SP Washy's or the ones in Nevada.

The Moapa Grove in Nevada is the one that there is some skepticism as to their nativity there.

Zac

Zac  

Living to get back to Mexico

International Palm Society member since 2007

http://community.webshots.com/user/zacspics - My Webshots Gallery

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